these guy's and im sure others have kits to turn your splits to singles..scrole to the bottom and it will some what tell you whats needed....splits takes big oil to run good..that why i went singles...
http://www.dpppower.com/73-injectors.html

 

The P&B's are different and make them single shots. Yes, machining the intensifier piston will give you more cc's, but your injectors will require more high pressure oil to function properly. This is info I have learned from Jim Rose.

 

So if I had a set of P&B's out of a single shot injector,(which I do) I could have the pistons machined like normal and put in the single shot p&B?

 

a stock ad injector can be made into a single with the changes you describe but why not go ahead and go with a 530 plunger and barrel set and make hybrids?

 

I did a set of hybrids (DIY) and have some stock single shot P&B left over.

 

If you have the piston out of an ab or ad split you dont need to cut the pistons, just put single shot p&b's in and you have your stage ones.

 

Yes but arn't those pistons 130cc's?

 

Not from what I was told.

 

1) You cannot use an AD Piston for anything other than an AD injector. You cannot use it with any single shot P&B including the 530's. You can only do very minor machining to the AD Piston to get a small increase in fuel from them, usually not worth the trouble, that's why a lot of guys convert to Singles. The split shot timing is very touchy and you generally do not want to mess with the Piston length.
2) You can use AB or AC Pistons without machining with a Single Shot P&B, including the 530's.
3) When you convert a AD into an AA you must replace the AD PIston, too. See 1) above...

 

Thanks Jim... Must have gotten things screwed up in my head somewhere along the way.

 

Thanks for the info Jim! That was what I was looking for!

 

You can make splits up to a max of 175cc's

-Michael

 

...And you need more oil than a 17* pump, from what we've seen. So most guys with splits just jump to hybrids and forget the larger splits. At least from my experience...

 

Not to mention that the bigger split shot injector rewards you with piss-poor functionality after all your hard work to make it exist.

Splits are what you run when you want stock injectors. When you want some more fuel, throw that junk in the trashcan.

They waste your most precious resource.... oil. They literally piss it away. You lose the entire width of the plunger groove's worth of oil and fuel on every single stroke. What a waste.

And get sub-standard injection control for the trouble.

Not to mention they sound pus$y and get worse milage.

I would think the decision would be a no-brainer.

 

: Modifying split shot injectors?

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1) You cannot use an AD Piston for anything other than an AD injector. You cannot use it with any single shot P&B including the 530's. You can only do very minor machining to the AD Piston to get a small increase in fuel from them, usually not worth the trouble, that's why a lot of guys convert to Singles. The split shot timing is very touchy and you generally do not want to mess with the Piston length.
2) You can use AB or AC Pistons without machining with a Single Shot P&B, including the 530's.
3) When you convert a AD into an AA you must replace the AD PIston, too. See 1) above... __________________


ok let me get this straight-
1)AB injector can be converter to single shot by using an AA plunger and barrel

#2) AD can be converted by using AA piston plunger and barrel??
where would improvment come from??

What gives injectors larger fuel flow?? nozzles??

 

Increased plunger travel and/or plunger diameter.

 

if you work at full force couldn't you have just asked cass? i would think he is a subject matter expert

 

Did you look at the date of the thread?

10-29-2008, 07:48 PM

:doh:

 

Thats funny!!! I had it all figured out!! LOL

 

i was runnin your setup in 08, except for that useless cfm + thing, and yep things have definitely changed

Whats the point in being a d!ck because you didn't read and were proven wrong.

 

Wow, gotta love it when someone comes along and resurects an old thread, people jump all over it and never notice its years old, LOL. THink where we were back in 08, I think things have changed a little since then.

Dan

 

i was runnin your setup in 08, except for that useless cfm + thing, and yep things have definitely changed

 

i didn't even revive the damn thread, sorry i don't look at the date of a thread thats on the home page i just assume that its recent.

 

Thats ok, Bruce is not one of my best fans on here, LOL. And I,m happy with the set up I have, though I think a 38 r would be better.