:stupid: mainly cause we were goin to send the heads there together. he cant do it cause of thickness reasons but i had considered cometic phuzions but after talkin to him they have not be proven on these things so....

 

fire ring the heads, thier is a place in ohio that has the gaskets and o rings hanging on the shelf, just have to have the groves cut

Travis

 

Ill donate a good block If you want mine I have other's.

 

ya its a good thing i brought my other one home last weekend:hehe:

 

fire ring the heads, thier is a place in ohio that has the gaskets and o rings hanging on the shelf, just have to have the groves cut
Travis

I have an extra brand new BHJ plate, just buy the cutter and do it yourself. Then you can offer the service as well

O-Ring and Receiver Groove Cutter: BHJ Products, +1 (510)797-6780

 

I once used a set of "Flat-Out" Copper gaskets that uses and RTV on both sides as well as double opposing .050 diameter stainless, one in the head and one in the block (different diameters) , machined by Fowler, on a 1000 plus HP Duramax. Works great........... Oh, and they are reusable........

 

I like the fire rings.

 

i have a plate too nate just dont have the cutter i use brc's whn i need it, u could borrow my plate though

Travis

 

As of right now, I plan to send the heads to Wide Open Performance and have fire rings cut and install new H-11 Studs.

Sounds like a great plan.:ford:

I have two engines with ***'s fire rings and H11's. No issues. Though I'm not making over 100psi of boost yet.

 

Key word here is yet right :evil:evil:evil

 

Fire rings here and never had them fail in over 4 years. Even when I split the block and ran two more passes at the track. The pressure and force was there to break the motor but the head gaskets and rings looked perfect according to Zane.

 

115+ psi boost in the *** race truck for over 160 track passes, never a blown gasket, never a blown freeze plug.

Fire rings work.

 

jacob- do you prefer *** ?? i havent seen any posts recently where you mention them. just wondering.

 

hmmm.

 

Is block work required to run fire rings?

 

Just make sure the deck is perfectly flat.

 

SWINGER...........he is. But good nuts to swing on I guess if your gonna be a nutswinger.

I am wondering if firerings will work for Nate as he said he a has a imperfection in 1 spot on his block.

 

I am wondering if firerings will work for Nate as he said he a has a imperfection in 1 spot on his block.

That is also what I am wondering. I know .0015" isn't much, but I want to be sure that the fire rings will seal it before I go that route. I like the fact of going back to the srock gaskets because they will be a little more forgiving for the imperfection, however I don't know whether the fire ring will seal or not...

 

LOL
Shay is to BTS, what Jacob is to ***

 

we have a winner.

 

who's running fire rings with the machining done to the block side instead of the heads or running half and half machined. This was brought up to me by the guy who machined my block who mainly does high 2000hp+ horsepower boat motors. Anyone???

 

I am..

 

The western approach is cut into the heads, here in OH the grooves go into the block. IIRC and please correct me if I am wrong.

 

Nate, I hate to say it, but if your gonna do it, do it right and pull the motor and have the block decked to get you back to where it needs to be.

I would hate to see you spend the cash and then have the fire rings fail after not taking care of the REAL problem in the first place.

I know its not my money or time, but if it were me, thats what I'd do.

Marc

 

I only see one option myself, and I have a motor here I've been wanting to tear apart to get done: Deck block, surface heads, and fire ring grooves in BOTH block and heads. Only way to go, IMO, and never worry about it.
Oh, with stock gaskets from that place in OH.

 

i believe the train has officially derailed.

 

to me I would pull it, deck the block then groove the head and the block never look back and rag on it like a redheaded step child with no worries pushin all the boost you want thats what the monster horsepower boat guys down here do. Why wouldn't it work on a 7.3 he almost talked me in to it but im sticking with stock gaskets for now as a band-aid rather blow a gasket them pieces of block all over. Seems best to relieve some of the stress of/on the head there's not to much metal there anyways in the first place to be removing and machining a groove in pushing 100lbs of boost. The whole point is to keep stuff together

 

Oh snaps

 

Special Thanks to David at DI and Jacob/Zane at ***, I will be installing fire rings and stock gaskets within the next few weeks. Hopefully this time it holds up. Now I'm just praying I can cut these grooves right... LOL

 

You are welcome,

BTW so easy a cave man can do itoke:

 

ROTFLMFAO!!! LOL LOL LOL

You got me there David!

 

A Mexican caveman?

If he did it...you can do it.