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How does a 6.7L handle short trips daily

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#1 ·
This might seem like a stupid question but with all this new emissions crap and new technology in these engines I want to ask it anyway. My daily commute to work is only 7 minutes, 3 miles one way, stop and go driving, in fact most of my driving is city driving, maybe once or twice a week I get on the highway for 10-15 minutes. So my question is does this type a driving have a negative effect on these engines, especially in the cold weather?

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#2 ·
IMHO.......Hell yes! So many guys are not knowledgeable on diesels and owning one is definitely not for the meek. Diesels are made for long running endurance. This is why they have a very heavy block. They are workhorses thru and thru. Just like the big Belgian draft horses you see on the Bud commercials that are bred for heavy pulling so is your big heavy Powerstroke. Especially now with all the particulate filter crap on them. Diesels run their cleanest after getting warmed up. If you are only driving for 7 minutes it is not even close to getting to operating temps. This means it is going to soot up the DPF much more so than normal driving. It is going to go into regeneration and will never be able to complete it.
 
#4 ·
No offense to either of you but I find it hilarious that I get two completely different answers!

If I understand the regen process correctly, then the short trips would make the truck want to regen more often? Does the truck show a message when the truck needs to regen or only when the regen process is taking place?
 
#6 ·
Lol yeah you're understanding it right. Not being able to complete a regen will make it just try to do it again the next time. It doesn't let you know when it's about to regen but once it starts
a message pops up on the screen meeting you know. Just remember there are thousands of people that don't have long drives to work that never have a problem out of their trucks.

I will say though that I always remote start my truck in the winter just to get the temperature up in the colder months before I start driving.



I will just back out. 64 years old and having owned a 99, 03, 08 and now a 14 not even counting the diesel tractors I farm with, just go ahead and listen to the guy who owns the 12 and only drives a mile to work..............
Times have changed, and so have diesel engines. I could go on and on about all of the peterbuilts in our company's fleet or our tractors for our farm too, but that has nothing to do with the 6.7 powerstroke regen process now does it?

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#5 ·
I will just back out. 64 years old and having owned a 99, 03, 08 and now a 14 not even counting the diesel tractors I farm with, just go ahead and listen to the guy who owns the 12 and only drives a mile to work..............
 
#7 ·
I just bout a 13 and I remote start mine every morning and have only a 3 mile drive to work. They do like to regen more often when you drive them short distances but I bought a edge insight cs and can watch how full the dpf is and t will tell you when regen is taking place. Also with the insight you can manual go in and start a regen instead of taking it to the delar to have it done. On the other hand you do need to take thrm out for some long drives every now and then.
 
#10 ·
I just bought an insight CTS yesterday, exactly for this reason. My drive is 3 miles each way so I figured being able to regen now and then manually will really help. I usually go for a highspeed hard drive down the highway every couple weeks to clean her out anyways.
 
#8 ·
I know a couple of guys that plug in their block heater even in the summer whenever they do short trips in order to help get the truck up temperature as fast as possible. Than may be a little anal to some people but these guys own diesels that have close to 300K on them so its hard to laugh at them doing it.


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#9 ·
if you have a 3 mile commute you do not NEED a 1 ton truck. YOU NEED A BICYCLE. for the truck payment alone never mind fuel and insurance you could book a taxi morning and night for the next ten years. the taxi is always warm when you get in, and you don't spend a stinking cent on maintenance, or wonder whether it will start.unless you have a significant need of a heavy truck for work or recreation save your money
 
#11 ·
Not everyone buys these trucks because they absolutely need them. 98% of the time mine is unloaded, and ill be willing to bet there are tons of guys with 3/4 and 1 tons that dont NEED them, but they get them. Everyones situation is different and if he wants a diesel to drive to work, then let the man do it. Short trips will fill up the dpf faster, and without a way to monitor you wont know if the regen has finished or not. Like it was said earlier, just take it for a highway drive every now and then and itll clean it out.....or delete and dont worry about it :D
 
#14 ·
So during regen does a message come up? Never saw a clear answer...just wondering. I'm one of those usual driving folks that i have a very very short commute daily. Usually 200+ miles are put on the truck every weekend though so I feel this makes up for it. I pull a gooseneck pretty regularly too so it does get a work out. I've only owned this 6.7 for going on 3 weeks and love it but have only seen one message pop up something about exhaust cleaning? Hence why I'm curious. Definitely not new to diesels but new to this new style...I bought my 6.4 already tuned...
 
#15 ·
Regen is one thing, however no-one has said anything about getting the block up to operating temp to get rid of condensation. You have to get the temps of the water, block, oil, etc., so the moisture evaporates. Both of my boys wanted diesels when they were old enough to drive, well they were 2 miles from school. The rules were -- Go out early, start your truck, get up to temp. before you leave. Guess what, they still do it today, and they have been out of school for years. You have to treat a diesel right or get a piece of **** for short runs.
 
#20 ·
Could you explain how the condensation hurts the motor? Im just curious since i haven't heard of this, and would like to know the theory behind it. On top of that i thought that idling alone wouldn't get temps up to operating temp anyway. If this is from experience with older diesels im also curious as to whether or not it would still be an issue for these newer generation diesels.
 
#22 ·
remember your dumping extra fuel in the drivers side head ( after the exhaust valves)when in regen and the exhaust temp at that point is about 1200 deg. so on your short trips since your NOT letting it finish the regen cycle the valves are supper hot to cold without normal cool down. I use the caddy for short trips.( less then 10 miles)
 
#24 ·
I am also curious about idle time to let it warm up. I'm not new to diesels I've had a 10 ram and a 13 ram but with ram in park you could put the cruse on and his set and it would "high idle" I asked at the dealership about this but those guys don't know a diesel from a 5.0 so not help there and I have read the manuals but haven't seen anything about high idle. I know the power stroke isn't a cummins and I'm not trying to start anything I just was curious if I remote start it for 10 minutes before I take a trip if it actually helps this 6.7 or or if I'm just wasting fuel.