Mine is an early bird. I'd say that the only down fall of the early is that it uses a different turbo pedestal, up pipes, and intake Y. Its similar to the the late 99-03 but different enough that a gtp38r turbo won't bolt right on. Other than that they're just fine.

 

Hey Jake will the turbo ped off an 01 fit on 97 motor. Thinking of doing a motor swap 97 4x4 van motor into 01 SD. Would a 97 motor be considered an e99? Everyone said every thing should be able to be swaped over. Or is it easier put forged rods in the 01 motor?

 

If you are planning on doing small injectors and turbo I would get one. Just go with a 66 from beans. Early 99s have smaller injectors, intake plenums and a 15 degree hpop. A good step up would be to get a 17 for it in the future.

 

Mine is a early99. Tough as nails.

 

.we all change the same parts in the end to get where we want to be if you plan on going for 400 HP or more....the only thing early on my truck now is the build date...

 

:whs:

I love my early bird. 280K and still running really strong.

 

Look at my sig. I tow a 12K+ toyhauler in the mtns here in Az in summer and it pulls great and has been solid. If you're not looking for BIG power it will do good. Intake, exhaust & guages first.

 

thanks for the super quick responses. A trip to beans would likely be in the card with any of the options. I don't really care, a d66 is all the turbo I would ever need. All I will do is stage 1s so I don't need anything more than that. I would do an adrenaline also, kind of a piece of mind.

thanks
micky

 

One more question, did these have the zf5 or 6?

 

ZF6

 

I can reach 27psi with stock turbo & inj with Jody's 40T tune with the trailer pulling a 9 mile 6% grade in temps around 100* with egt around 1250-1300. You said you weren't going for big power and towing only 10K once in a while . Whe spend the $$$ for the turbo & inj?? Just curious. I have had mine up to 85_90 mph with the trailer once to see what it would after the adrenaline instal. Was runnind about 16-17 psi and egt was about 1100 once I got up to speed. That turbo & inj will buy a lot of other things. Without the supporting mods the turbo & inj will not be as effective imho. This is just my $.02

 

The plan isn't to make a race truck out of it but a bit more power is a good thing right. plus the truck will be running 38-42" tires shortly after purchase.

 

No AIH Heater or Relay, No Cruise Control light on some of the real early ones.

There are a a few other minor differances besides what's in/on the engine, front rotors, track bar, PCM most upgraded when going for more power
(450+) even then one vendor that I have read about can tune using the e99 pcm.

317k and goin strong here.

 

Jody has nailed the tunes in my orig XLE4 pcm

 

love mine as well.278k and going strong.adrenaline made a big difference in mine.

 

Another wag for the early 99 i love mine had 208,000 mile of pullin no less 14k a day as a concrete contrators truck and if you know the things they put them throu that would impress you then it made it to 250,000 with crappy tunes and such before i pinholed a cylinder wall so there a great truck other than the smaller HPOP which the adrenaline fixes very well

 

have you swapped out the IDM yet Andy?? i just moded mine strait to the 140.. the early 99 has a 110 the 99.5 has the 120..

 

I saw no difference between the 110 and 120 IDMs.

I saw a difference with the high volt/high freq IDM.

 

thay are ZF6 transmissions.. mines an e99 and so far im happy with it.

 

im runnin 37s and its doin great. also the E99s have ww and forged rods. the laters dont. i say go with e99 so u can get that stuff then upgrade the turbo and other thing and dont have to worry about rods busting or surging.

 

I have had my early 99 for 8 years. I`ve beat on it, drove it 200 miles per day for a while, hauled more than I should, and it has been one hell of a truck. It has never let me down. In all of the time I`ve had it I have rebuilt the entire brake system, one alternator, new batteries, tires, and a clutch. I would call that pretty good for the time and mileage I`ve had it. I would buy another one tomorrow without any hesitation.

 

I love my early bird

 

Yeah, and yours is about as "early" still as mine is.. oke:


But seriously, the early99 is a GREAT work truck. On the performance side, just needs some upgrades. Just like any other 7.3L, just a bit different route.

 

I have mine since 2000. Better TRUCK than my DMAX.

 

I got a 2000 but any 7.3 really is bullet proof.

 

The older the Super Duty, the better. If the OBS's had better mirrors, I would even include those.

 

Even faster than I was expecting. Mirrors are the only thing about the OBS that I don't like. Give me my elephant ears.

 

 

Love my early 99 :ford:

 

I have a XLE4 PCM sitting on a bench. I plan to take it to the range soon and shoot the #### out of it.

 

Send it to me so I can have a spare. Jody's tunes work very well with mine.

 

I my vote is late 99 or 00. Forged rods, 17* HPOP... Etc.

 

I understand what you are saying Andy. I guess I'm old school and feel if the vehicle does what I want it to do why change? I'm not going to spend money nor time to change something that's doing the job I want it to. Kinda like my hotrods. If I wanted a 12 sec car that's what I built. I'm not the type that's always looking for more. Unless it's proven to more dependable or economical. That's all I was trying to say. And I have proof out in the driveway that the XLE4 can be tuned to do a great job.