ELC for the win.....


probably somewhere on the bottom of the radiator?

 

saw it while I was installing driving light while ago. is on bottom allen head and white plastic. drain that is...

 

U really wanna use a rad plus kit to make sure u get all the air out of system if not u could cause air to get into system and cause the front cover to fail just letting know common issue, air acts as pellets and puts small holes in front cover behide water pump causing oil to get into cooling system

 

what is a rad plus kit?

 

It is a kit that comes in tool kit or a tool truck, it is designed for keeping air from entering cooling system after it has been drain it is very important on a 6.4 liter with a 8 gallon coolant capacity it threads to degas bottle and has separte line that goes to coolant source 1 gallon container etc.... And then shop air is applied to kit and then valve on aux line is opened causing a vacuum preventing air to enter system while being filled most dealers have them or professional gas or diesel repair shops

 

A lot of dealers change radiators under warranty by the time I see them after 100,000 miles is when the effects from incorrect fill issues usually take place
Due to strong vacuum that the water pump pulls

 

Its called a Air lift as well... and most low and high pressure cooling systems such as maxxforce engines on some trucks need air lifts to fill both systems. And in a perfect world maybe no air... UV550000 - Airlift-Rad Air Purge & Refill - Cornwell Webcat

For one time use i wouldn't buy it...
Someone like me who uses it everyday for 5 gallon+ systems yes get it.

Go get Delo or Rotella ELC coolants then theres no worrying about it trying to get the mix right.....


Shell Rotella Extended Life Coolant / Antifreeze

 

rotella ECL? is their a sertin one i need or what? plus do I really need to use a rad plus kit? or can I play it safe w/o using it buy doing it the "rightway"

 

Dude Rad kits are for someone dealing with cooling system problems everyday.... Extended life coolants are designed to go 300k with no SCA's being added they claim i check mine once a year or 6months.

ELC Extended life coolants

DELO ROTELLA Red in most cases
yellow sometimes
Blue if its for cummins engines

you buy what the cooling system holds... And no water needed. Premixed

If your draining the cooling system pull the plugs on the block when switching coolants. Do you know how to flush cooling systems?

 

http://www.shellusserver.com/products/pdf/RotellaELC.pdf

 

well I was just thinking of pulling the plug out of the bottom. then when its all done I was going to take a hose and run water in it for about 10min to really clean it out. then add the new coolant in there. But I am very interested in doing this rotella ELC stuff. how many gallons do I need to buy?

 

is it really safe to leave it in their for 300k. and does the color have to be the same?

 

bump?

 

I dont think id leave it in there for more then 100k. Just cheaper to flush it then have problems down the road due to coolant issues. How much is this stuff? Never seen it.

 

15-16 bux how much do I need to buy

 

Like 30L of the 5050 mix. The exact amount is in the manual somewhere around the 29L mark

 

8gal

 

No you pull the plugs on the block. Leaving water in the block then running premixed stuff will make it a 75/25 mix. Drain everything then plug block run water with drain on radiator off . And if your anal get simple green or fleetgaurd coolant flush fill with water and one gallon of each. Run truck for 20mins then let cool. Drain both engine and block again get everything out by running water threw everything. Reinstall plugs on block and radiator. Fill with premix delo or rotella 50/50 red coolant elc... run tell thermostat opens check level. This is sent from android

 

so let me get this right.

1. drain coolant
2. refill with water only? then run motor
3. drain coolant again.
4. leave plug open & run constant water in system while motor is running?

 

so let me get this right.

1. drain coolant from radiator and block
2. refill with water only? then run motor yes unless you want to fill with one gallon of simple green and water run 20mins either way.
3. drain water and or simple green mix from radiator and block after engine has cold some
4. leave plug open & run constant water in system while motor is running? Yes 10mins then shut off and let circulate tell engine block is cool. Both block and radiator plugs!!!! I dont want anything in block or radiator when switching coolantsThen fill with coolant. This was sent from android

 

now when u mean both block and radiator. thats the plug at the bottom of the radiator and block means the coolant housing?

 

No engine block. Ones next to water heater top of starter area. And driverside same basic. Area just with nothing in the way. If I remember right boss oring plugs Allen heads sent from android. You want pics let me know. As of right now I'm going to bed have to be at work at international at 6am. Ill check back tomorrow

 

yea if you have pics that wood be great. sry for the hassel

 

This is a 6.4 from international... Starter is on driverside as well as single turbo and egr cooler.. called a maxxforce 7. The plugs are in the same spot though ok

So you know im not bsin you

Plugs you pull

 

i kinda can't see were the plugs are at the pic is a little too big/ fuzzy....tanks for all your help thou man am learning alot

 

Sorry uploaded from phone comp is getting up graded. You have a phone with web You can zoom in and out: ) or a wide screen monitor.

 

its cool but the plugs are next to the starter on the driver side?

 

Great thread, mine needs to be done soon too.