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I am looking at buying a reloader, for reloading pistol and rifle rounds. Just wondering what others are using and if they like it or want something different. I am currently looking at the hornady single stage reloader

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Hornady makes a good press, for that matter so do the rest of the manufactures.

I have been using a Lyman that is older than most of the members here on the board. I had to repair it a couple of times but for the amount of rounds that I have loaded with it I am not going to complain.

Some will suggest a progressive but that will depend on just how many rounds you plan on loading. I can load pistol rounds quite quick once I get the cases sized and re-primed, and the same with rifle cases. It is the prep work that takes the time.

If I was to get a new press I believe that it would be the RCBS Rock Chucker and if I was going to look at a progressive I would start with looking at the Dillon 550

Which ever one you get make sure that the die thread is the standard for the industry and with the Horady you will be alright. It uses die sleeves where once you have the die adjusted and in the sleeve, they will just pop in and out. But then the other presses work almost just as easy once you have the adjustment ring tightened down onto the die and you screw it back into the press.
 

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I was thinking about the RCBS just haven't seen a lot of info on them yet. If I go with a progressive it will probably be a dillon 550 or 650. I will look at the RCBS some more. Thank you for your input.

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The big difference is just how the accept the dies. The Hornady has the sleeves that lock into the press where RCBS still has you screw the die into place. But as I mentioned once you have your die adjusted to where you want it and lock down the lock ring that die is set. Also you don't have to purchase more sleeves for other dies with the RCBS as you do with the Hornady. In my opinion it is really a mute point as is the color you like, red vrs green.

I won a Hornady Loc N Load a few years ago and sold it to a member on another forum and he has been relaoding with it ever since and has had no problems.

The big thing is the accessories that you get with the kit. All the kits come with everything you need to start out with except for the components but some are nicer than the others. But that is where time come in and you can pick things up as you notice that you need them or upgrade parts as you go.

The reason that I mentioned the Rock Chucker is that I load for some magnum cartridges and it has a little bit more space at the top of the press when you go to seat the bullets. On others you have to insert the bullet slightly into the die and then down onto the case mouth. But for 90% of my loading I have no problems with the space.
 

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You first have to decide what you are reloading for. I have been loading my own ammo for 50+ years; have used a lot of equipment over the years. I primarily load long range single shot rifle ammo, with pinpoint accuracy being the prime objective; I use single stage Redding presses with either Redding dies or custom dies made by John Whidden.

If you are loading to feed semiauto rifles or pistols and you regularly shoot over 100 rounds when you go to the range you NEED a progressive press and Dillon would be my choice. A single stage press will wear you out, and soon you will be back to buying ammo because you can't get enough ammo loaded without spending HOURS reloading.

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I am getting back into the reloading game, been out close to 30 years now. I just bought a 6.5 grendel and ammo is a little tough to find unless you order it and wait. The Creedmoor will be my next purchase. I will be reloading my 30-30, 30.06, 35, 223, then a multitude of pistol calibers. I have been looking at the hornady pretty hard, with the RCBS next in line just wondering what others thought. The RCBS looks like it might be a better kit to restart again with. My last one was a dillon progressive and I don't recall having many problems with it. I guess it will boil down to how easy it will be to swap dies between the different calibers.

It sounds like so far the RCBS would be the easiest of the 2 so far. I figure after a while I will probably upgrade to the dillon just not ready to pull the trigger on that one yet.

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Every couple of weeks I kick myself for selling all of my reloading stuff. I inherited it from my grandfather after he passed away. Didn't even get to set it all up before I needed cash really bad when I was about 21 or something. So I sold all of it, and still wish I would have kept it.

I know he had several presses, one was a Lyman and the other one was green, don't know what type it was though.
 

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For a single stage press (which is more than adequate for the average shooter) the Hornady "Lock N Load" makes things the simplest for a single stage press. You set the depth of the die in a bushing then that bushing is what u pop in and out of the press with each change of the process, not having to unthread two inches of 7/8x14 threads until it hits the locking ring of other presses.

I have a Dillon progressive for bulk production and recently replaced a Rock Chucker II (RCBS) that was my old man's and between us probably cranked out a million rounds in it's day with a Rock Chucker Supreme single stage press for the nitty gritty rounds. By that I mean the shooter rifles and some handgun rounds that I weigh each case, each bullet, each powder charge then as the powder pan sits on the scale I use tweezers to get say "104 grains" to weigh out to "104.000gr" on the display. The "supreme" just seems to be what the oldschool Chucker has evolved into, nothing really royal about it.

A single stage press will crank out a couple hundred rounds in an average sitting - average defined as the amount of time until you get bored with doing it - whereas a progressive can really let the cream fly........if you have the means, need, and use for that much ammo.

Jamie - Green is RCBS.

IMO - What RCBS falls short in as far as trinkets and little gimmicks to make things easier they make up for in their absolute iron clad warranty. I've returned dies to them that had plainly visible pipe wrench scores along the body, chisel gouges from 'un-stucking' rounds, and every other manner of obvious abuse and they've never batted an eyelash.

The micrometer click seating dies from Forster, Redding, Wilson et. al and the other 'super precision' are a bit overhyped too IMO. You can do all that with a normal blue collar setup as well. One process in dies, however, that cannot be argued as to it's attributing to better accuracy is neck sizing of the cases... Neck sizing dies are worth the extra expense if your ammo is going to be gun-specific or you can keep lots segregated.
 

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For a single stage press (which is more than adequate for the average shooter) the Hornady "Lock N Load" makes things the simplest for a single stage press. You set the depth of the die in a bushing then that bushing is what u pop in and out of the press with each change of the process, not having to unthread two inches of 7/8x14 threads until it hits the locking ring of other presses.

I have a Dillon progressive for bulk production and recently replaced a Rock Chucker II (RCBS) that was my old man's and between us probably cranked out a million rounds in it's day with a Rock Chucker Supreme single stage press for the nitty gritty rounds. By that I mean the shooter rifles and some handgun rounds that I weigh each case, each bullet, each powder charge then as the powder pan sits on the scale I use tweezers to get say "104 grains" to weigh out to "104.000gr" on the display. The "supreme" just seems to be what the oldschool Chucker has evolved into, nothing really royal about it.

A single stage press will crank out a couple hundred rounds in an average sitting - average defined as the amount of time until you get bored with doing it - whereas a progressive can really let the cream fly........if you have the means, need, and use for that much ammo.

Jamie - Green is RCBS.

IMO - What RCBS falls short in as far as trinkets and little gimmicks to make things easier they make up for in their absolute iron clad warranty. I've returned dies to them that had plainly visible pipe wrench scores along the body, chisel gouges from 'un-stucking' rounds, and every other manner of obvious abuse and they've never batted an eyelash.

The micrometer click seating dies from Forster, Redding, Wilson et. al and the other 'super precision' are a bit overhyped too IMO. You can do all that with a normal blue collar setup as well. One process in dies, however, that cannot be argued as to it's attributing to better accuracy is neck sizing of the cases... Neck sizing dies are worth the extra expense if your ammo is going to be gun-specific or you can keep lots segregated.
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Following this. I don't shoot enough anymore, but I plan too. Lol
For some real world reviews, cam also look at some of the Youtubers that do reloading.

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Since I retired I have shot more rounds than I did the previous 10 years. Just yesterday I went out and took a dozen shots at 500 yards with my .25-06 to get ready for a Arizona coues deer hunt next month. I missed a 500 yard shot at one last year so this year I want to be ready.

I have also given up buying powder in 1 lb cans, I have found that the 5 lb or 8 lb ones are better on the pocket book once you get over the initial shock of the price of it now days. My biggest problem is that I am starting to stock pile bullets that my rifles don't like to shoot. It is too bad that you have to buy them in a box of 50 instead of a pack of 10 to try out.
 

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Ballistics are an odd red headed stepchild of a science to understand. I have many identical firearms that don't 'like' the same load recipe from gun to gun - in one case I have a pair of consecutive serial number M70 Winchester '06's that don't like the same powder or bullet to shoot same hole groups @100 but it is what it is.
 

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For a single stage press (which is more than adequate for the average shooter) the Hornady "Lock N Load" makes things the simplest for a single stage press. You set the depth of the die in a bushing then that bushing is what u pop in and out of the press with each change of the process, not having to unthread two inches of 7/8x14 threads until it hits the locking ring of other presses.

I have a Dillon progressive for bulk production and recently replaced a Rock Chucker II (RCBS) that was my old man's and between us probably cranked out a million rounds in it's day with a Rock Chucker Supreme single stage press for the nitty gritty rounds. By that I mean the shooter rifles and some handgun rounds that I weigh each case, each bullet, each powder charge then as the powder pan sits on the scale I use tweezers to get say "104 grains" to weigh out to "104.000gr" on the display. The "supreme" just seems to be what the oldschool Chucker has evolved into, nothing really royal about it.

A single stage press will crank out a couple hundred rounds in an average sitting - average defined as the amount of time until you get bored with doing it - whereas a progressive can really let the cream fly........if you have the means, need, and use for that much ammo.

Jamie - Green is RCBS.

IMO - What RCBS falls short in as far as trinkets and little gimmicks to make things easier they make up for in their absolute iron clad warranty. I've returned dies to them that had plainly visible pipe wrench scores along the body, chisel gouges from 'un-stucking' rounds, and every other manner of obvious abuse and they've never batted an eyelash.

The micrometer click seating dies from Forster, Redding, Wilson et. al and the other 'super precision' are a bit overhyped too IMO. You can do all that with a normal blue collar setup as well. One process in dies, however, that cannot be argued as to it's attributing to better accuracy is neck sizing of the cases... Neck sizing dies are worth the extra expense if your ammo is going to be gun-specific or you can keep lots segregated.
This is some very good info and was already leaning towards the Hornady and this pushed it over the edge. Thank you Mr Andy, and all others that have given their 2 cents.



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What 's everyones thoughts on case cleaning. I am thinking about using the tumblr, then sizing, then a bath wash or I think it's called a sonic wash.

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Since I retired I have shot more rounds than I did the previous 10 years. Just yesterday I went out and took a dozen shots at 500 yards with my .25-06 to get ready for a Arizona coues deer hunt next month. I missed a 500 yard shot at one last year so this year I want to be ready.

I have also given up buying powder in 1 lb cans, I have found that the 5 lb or 8 lb ones are better on the pocket book once you get over the initial shock of the price of it now days. My biggest problem is that I am starting to stock pile bullets that my rifles don't like to shoot. It is too bad that you have to buy them in a box of 50 instead of a pack of 10 to try out.
I have a friend that bought way to much powder awhile ago so I will probably start with that and see what happens.

Where is AZ are you going, I spent 35 years of my life there minus my service time.

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I'll be south of Tucson on the border near Sasabe. I was down there last year and got one shot but I blew it at 500 yards, but I am ready this year. I also go down to a area north of Oracle to hunt javelina every year, this will make the 25 or so year that I have gone down to do that.

On case cleaning you want to deprime and size the cases before you clean them. Then they are nice and clean to finish them up. I have only used a RCBS vibrator cleaner using crushed walnut shells and it has worked quite well for me. But the sonic cleaners are coming on strong now and I might start looking at them.
 
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