What are the results of broken IPR screen?

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black_sheep

Discussion Starter · Dec 29, 2014

I have an '05 6.0, egr is deleted but no studs or head gaskets or cooler was done, as I put in the delete for a quick fix. Planned on doin the complete bulletproofing at a later date when I had a second vehicle. Long story short my truck stalled April of this year, as if one turned off the key. No codes from my sct, and I don't remember the exact numbers but I do remember the HPO was above 500 when I had a mechanic read it. I bought a new ficm, stc fitting, oil&filter, blue spring, and said maybe the bitch will run. I installed it all an noticed when I took the ipr out the screen had a tear, and I found the little piece shifted and kinda jammed between the 'plunger/needle' type thing. So I talked to a friend and he have me another ipr and said mine was probably bad. So I took his and used the new screen and o rings which I had ordered for mine. Put it all together and with the stc and all that fun stuff. Drained the oil and got about a couple gallons of antifreeze from the base pan. So I said to myself, self, your screwed. Anyway I put the new oil in, yes I know I was throwing it away basically, but after 7 months I just had to know if the stc or ipr was the cause of my ever so long no start. Well the bitch still wouldn't go.
Told another friend my story, whom is a ford diesel tech, he said 9 times out of 10 when he finds the ipr wth a torn screen he always replaces the hpop.
Can anyone tell me if this is an accurate statement. And shed some light on the aftermath of a torn ipr screen? Or should it be just a replace and continue on deal.
Also this engine is getting replaced with a new-used one that I will have bulletproofed before the install. I also can almost guarantee my heads will be warped, this trucks been using coolant from the bottle for the past year it's been running. One of those things you keep putting off. There's lots of 6.0 engines to be had. This one I take out of the truck now will be my study guide. So I can learn and figure out everything there is to know by digging in to it, for a time passer I guess.
Thanks for any help

P.s I ended up leaving the truck home as it sits, me and the dear moved to alberta till march/April so that's when the truck will be getting the new heart transplant and a good frame off cleaning/painting

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Mhatlen

· #2 · Dec 29, 2014

What he's saying is most often when a IPR is full of trash it's from work being done to the engine. Mechanics that don't use sterile practice will wipe parts of the engine with shop rags and leave garbage inside the engine.
There's also a screen in the valley that feeds the HPOP that is surely plugging up too.
The pumps in the 6.0 are moving huge amounts of oil and doing it up to 4,000 psi.

When debris is in the oil it hits that IPR screen like a bullet and will destroy it. Regular shop rag lint does a unbelievable amount of damage. Is often the only thing that takes it down.

A good and qualified mechanic knows and will be using sterile gloves. Will also vacuum out areas before reassemby. There's lots of guys working on these engines but not enuf of them know what they are doing.
Last one in your engine most likely didn't have a clue and the next IPR you install will most likely get blown apart too.
Engine needs to be gone through and properly repaired. If it's not done by a qualified mechanic the odds of it going long term is low. Get on BPD website and find a approved/endorsed Powerstroke repair shop. It will be more then worth the effort.

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black_sheep

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 29, 2014

Mhatlen said:
What he's saying is most often when a IPR is full of trash it's from work being done to the engine. Mechanics that don't use sterile practice will wipe parts of the engine with shop rags and leave garbage inside the engine.
There's also a screen in the valley that feeds the HPOP that is surely plugging up too.
The pumps in the 6.0 are moving huge amounts of oil and doing it up to 4,000 psi.

When debris is in the oil it hits that IPR screen like a bullet and will destroy it. Regular shop rag lint does a unbelievable amount of damage. Is often the only thing that takes it down.

A good and qualified mechanic knows and will be using sterile gloves. Will also vacuum out areas before reassemby. There's lots of guys working on these engines but not enuf of them know what they are doing.
Last one in your engine most likely didn't have a clue and the next IPR you install will most likely get blown apart too.
Engine needs to be gone through and properly repaired. If it's not done by a qualified mechanic the odds of it going long term is low. Get on BPD website and find a approved/endorsed Powerstroke repair shop. It will be more then worth the effort.

That is great stuff to know. I'll definitely do some searching for a reputable shop for my new engine. Thanks a lot and I'll let you all know how it goes

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6speedSD

· #4 · Dec 30, 2014

Depends on what blew out the screen. If it's like he said, just common trash/lint from an oil cooler replacement, you should be good just replacing the IPR. If you find ANY metal shavings at all in th screen, then the hpop needs to be changed as well.

If you can give us numbers while you turn it over, we can help diagnose the no start. I know you said it's getting a new engine, but if it were me I'd have to find out why it wouldn't crank first. Could be a HPO issue, FICM could have crapped out on you, could have a chafed wire in your injector/FICM harness, etc. lots of variables in a no start condition.

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black_sheep

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 30, 2014

Yup soon as I get back home I'm going to get some numbers and try to figure out why for piece of mind. And yes there was quite a bit of metal shavings around where I unscrewed the ipr.

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