Wal-Mart steals from local communities
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yeah well if people would stop supporting them by buying there 2 stroke oil from them it wouldnt be so bad. lol. luckily we have been able to keep them out of our small town fo now, but they are trying their hardest to get in. but at the same time, the a$$hole small town business owners are jackin up prices, because no one wants to cross the bridge to leave the town, and no one cares. its a bunch of rich stuck up pricks. they get away with murder around here. to be honest, as much as i like supporting my community, it would be a good thing for most of us if we at least had a wal mart.
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No offense but what did they do wrong? They did nothing illegal? They worked the system like anyone of us would do...
Just because there the big bad wal mart we are all expected to hate them?
Wal-mart, Home Depot, Koels, Fred Meyers, Costco... they all do the same thing.
Those same company's pay my mortgage, my kid schooling, my truck additiction... They provide jobs, tax base, and in many city's we have built them in, they have saved a dieing city...
Just because there the big bad wal mart we are all expected to hate them?
Wal-mart, Home Depot, Koels, Fred Meyers, Costco... they all do the same thing.
Those same company's pay my mortgage, my kid schooling, my truck additiction... They provide jobs, tax base, and in many city's we have built them in, they have saved a dieing city...
Point is what they did was illegal, and it's stealing.
Do you and I get away with not paying taxes??? nooooo
The very things you mentioned make it even more imperative they operate ethically IMO.
Wal mart doesn't want you to prosper, they want you to be poverty stricken so all you can afford is their crap.
Do you and I get away with not paying taxes??? nooooo
The very things you mentioned make it even more imperative they operate ethically IMO.
Wal mart doesn't want you to prosper, they want you to be poverty stricken so all you can afford is their crap.
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Come on Greg... your telling me you don't go for every write off you can? Your telling me that if you could rent your house back to yourself and avoid some tax liability you would not?
Do you think Halaburton is paying there taxes up front and just using a 1040ez?
What about Target? Do you think K mart filed chapter 11 because they could not pay the bills or because it got them out of a HUGE TAX dept?
I'm not bashing, but tell me truthfuly...
Do you think Halaburton is paying there taxes up front and just using a 1040ez?
What about Target? Do you think K mart filed chapter 11 because they could not pay the bills or because it got them out of a HUGE TAX dept?
I'm not bashing, but tell me truthfuly...
Would I, yes?
That's the issue though, is when companies or any entity that can affect the lives of that many people via the economy of small towns etc, they have a responsibility to act with that in mind.
That's the question, how far is this allowed to go before it has detrimental effects, both micro and macro economically.
You live here, you make your living here. Would you rather support us, or China.
That's the issue though, is when companies or any entity that can affect the lives of that many people via the economy of small towns etc, they have a responsibility to act with that in mind.
That's the question, how far is this allowed to go before it has detrimental effects, both micro and macro economically.
You live here, you make your living here. Would you rather support us, or China.
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I'm with you on this one greg, and I write off everything that I can but when a huge company like that starts doing damage to the small businesses in the area and hurts the community by not pulling their own weight is when the line should be drawn.
CISPD says they provide all these wonderful things but in reality they are stealing from the community but people will see things the way they want to and it's usually pointless to try and debate it with them greg. It's all fine and dandy until it starts to affect the small guy then it's a moral obligation as well as like greg said illegal so I hope they pursue them vigorously.
Nobody can say anthing to me since I donate way more than my share not just in taxes but in 10 free pizzas for this organization and 10 free pizzas for this organization and this guy can't afford to eat and this guy is short today and everyone thinks you can just write it off which sounds dandy but it never makes up for money not made. I know that I'll never set foot in wal-mart ever again nor will any of my family members and I can't get around paying my taxes on the businesses even with the write offs it's insane and probably rivals what some people make in a year it's sick and that's to live 10 minutes from scenic detroit can't imagine what a nice area would cost.
CISPD says they provide all these wonderful things but in reality they are stealing from the community but people will see things the way they want to and it's usually pointless to try and debate it with them greg. It's all fine and dandy until it starts to affect the small guy then it's a moral obligation as well as like greg said illegal so I hope they pursue them vigorously.
Nobody can say anthing to me since I donate way more than my share not just in taxes but in 10 free pizzas for this organization and 10 free pizzas for this organization and this guy can't afford to eat and this guy is short today and everyone thinks you can just write it off which sounds dandy but it never makes up for money not made. I know that I'll never set foot in wal-mart ever again nor will any of my family members and I can't get around paying my taxes on the businesses even with the write offs it's insane and probably rivals what some people make in a year it's sick and that's to live 10 minutes from scenic detroit can't imagine what a nice area would cost.
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Wal Mart has taken down more than small businesses. Remington (firearms) is a good example. Wal Mart will buy from a select company. They begin small then keep increasing until that company can no longer keep up with demand. This company seeing big sales numbers to Wal Mart soon forgets the little guys that made them what they are. Once Wal Mart has this company wraped up then they will start to dictate what they will pay for said product. With sales to outside venders long gone this company has no choice but to decrease quality to meet Wal Marts price demands. Decreased quality, lower pay and poorer working conditions are the result.
So are they good for the economy and the working person? They care for no one!
So are they good for the economy and the working person? They care for no one!
Not to mention the music they sell, Wal Mart sells something like 65+% of the CD's sold in the US. Then they dictate what will be recorded on those CD's. I won't buy my CD's from Wal Mart because they usually don't have what I want, but the point is why should you be forced to buy edited CD's? A lot of music stores and chains have gone out of business so then you are forced to buy from Wal Mart unless you want to shop online or travel to where a music store is. I know a lot of people don't buy CD's with explicit material on them, but some obviously do, and it's not just that if they don't like the content they will tell the record people to change it or it won't be sold. That is a huge impact if you lose say 60% of your sales because you don't want to change it.
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Think of this... Who is forcing ANYONE to buy at wal-mart? No one is forcing them too. People shop there because they want the cheapest thing they can get... NOW dont get me wrong, I have worked along side of Wal-mart for the last ten years, and Sam Walton is spinning in his grave at the way things are being run now... but its a simple thing, if you dont like it dont shop there... But I can tell you when I go there I still have to park in the back lot, still have to fight for the shopping carts, and still have to wait in line for 20 minutes on the way out.
I like how you all skipped the Target, K-mart, and Others part of my post...
Sears is a great example... Look at craftsman tools, they used to be the ####... Now they are ####... Most buy them just simply because when they do break you can take it in and get a new one... Sears did that too them by forcing a price point...
Please dont bash me, I am simply stating my point of view, because Wal-mart is my livelyhood.
I like how you all skipped the Target, K-mart, and Others part of my post...
Sears is a great example... Look at craftsman tools, they used to be the ####... Now they are ####... Most buy them just simply because when they do break you can take it in and get a new one... Sears did that too them by forcing a price point...
Please dont bash me, I am simply stating my point of view, because Wal-mart is my livelyhood.
Some people are actually forced to if what they need is not available because the place they used to buy from went out of business. Some people just can't travel to buy goods, so they have to shop there. I don't shop at Wal Mart unless I absolutely have to which is maybe once a year. Now around here I don't think this is as much of a problem as has been said in other places.
My biggest issue with Wal Mart is they built a store near my house, they pushed to get the store built, now they want to move and put up a bigger store. So now this huge building will be vacant and just be an eye sore. We have a big enough problem with trying to keep business's in the area without this happening. There aren't really any other business's that could fill that building after Wal mart moves.
CSI I am not bashing you in the least man, everyone needs to make a living. I don't even blame Wal Mart employees, I blame Wal Mart Corporate for their tactics.
My biggest issue with Wal Mart is they built a store near my house, they pushed to get the store built, now they want to move and put up a bigger store. So now this huge building will be vacant and just be an eye sore. We have a big enough problem with trying to keep business's in the area without this happening. There aren't really any other business's that could fill that building after Wal mart moves.
CSI I am not bashing you in the least man, everyone needs to make a living. I don't even blame Wal Mart employees, I blame Wal Mart Corporate for their tactics.
hey im poor where are my pizzas!?! wtf?? :swordfight:
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In my town there was one regular WM, good selection, friendly service kinda home town style. Well they close it, now there are two SWM's. These two super pos don't have half of what the one store had. IMO they suck! Prices have gone up and service, well customer service is terrible. Wait in line for over priced stuff. Compare prices, they run everyone else out then stick it to ya.
Good example Kevin.
RubberMaid is a good example of another company they shut out.
Wal-Mart gives them a price, they say we can't afford to do it for that, wal mart says fine and stops ALL purchasing from rubber maid. RM goes out of business and wal mart buys the company and moves all the manufacturing over seas.
Now you can't get a decent quality action packer, just some flimsy chinese crap that is good for nothing. So yes, they sometimes force us to by crap, because there is no alternative.
And Joe, those other stores you mentioned don't operate at a corporate level, and on the margins wal mart does, not even close.
RubberMaid is a good example of another company they shut out.
Wal-Mart gives them a price, they say we can't afford to do it for that, wal mart says fine and stops ALL purchasing from rubber maid. RM goes out of business and wal mart buys the company and moves all the manufacturing over seas.
Now you can't get a decent quality action packer, just some flimsy chinese crap that is good for nothing. So yes, they sometimes force us to by crap, because there is no alternative.
And Joe, those other stores you mentioned don't operate at a corporate level, and on the margins wal mart does, not even close.
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There was also a sole owner produce farm that went under. This was even on CNN a couple years ago. This woman was on top of the world when WM bought her produce. This happened when WM started converting to Super Wal Mart. Convinced her to expand and deal primarily with them. Once they had her hooked and indebt they started controlling price.
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Nearby town was trying to keep WM from tearing down some historic homes in 2 seperate locations to build 2 stores. One was stopped because the town got the historic house put on the national historic register or whatever it was. Oddly enough, a few days later the homes mysteriously burned to the ground...blamed on vagrants living in them. Odd that the two locations were about 15 miles apart, burned the same night and the fires started about 20 minutes apart. These were some beautiful old victorian homes, made me sick.
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Work hard prosper get big and then have it all taken away from you because you did better than everybody else. Makes sense... I guess that's the new American dream?
Anybody see the Penn and Teller Wal Mart episode. Maybe the rest of you should take a look. Those guys rock!
Oddly enough, a few days later the homes mysteriously burned to the ground...blamed on vagrants living in them.
Absolute perfect example of the BS stories and twisted lies you hear about Wal Mart. Truth was the homes were abandoned and nobody gave two ####s about any of it until Wal Mart decided to improve the area by moving in. So now Wal Mart is made to look bad because they wanted to demolish a crap hole to build new.
Anybody see the Penn and Teller Wal Mart episode. Maybe the rest of you should take a look. Those guys rock!
Oddly enough, a few days later the homes mysteriously burned to the ground...blamed on vagrants living in them.
Absolute perfect example of the BS stories and twisted lies you hear about Wal Mart. Truth was the homes were abandoned and nobody gave two ####s about any of it until Wal Mart decided to improve the area by moving in. So now Wal Mart is made to look bad because they wanted to demolish a crap hole to build new.
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