Ford Power Stroke Nation banner

1 - 20 of 346 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I think 'we' (more like me as I am polluting their thread with OBS stuff ) may as well split from the Super Duty thread found Torque App for Android


Mode/PID: 221445
Long name: Exhaust Back Pressure 7.3
Short name: EBP
Min value: 0
Max value: 75
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: (((A*256)+B*0.03625)-6.5
Header: Auto
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 22114A
Long name: IATf OBS
Short name: IATf
Min value: 0
Max value: 100
Scale: x1
Unit: f
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*-0.00370)+193.39
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: Boost OBS
Short name: Boost
Min value: 0
Max value: 60
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((((A*256)+B*0.00109)-15.73)-Baro()
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/14 seems to read psia

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP frequency OBS
Short name: MAPf
Min value: 100
Max value: 256
Scale: x1
Unit: Hz
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*0.00395
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 22114A
Long name: IAT volt OBS
Short name: IATv
Min value: 0
Max value: 5
Scale: x1
Unit: V
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/11099
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP OBS
Short name: MAP
Min value: 0
Max value: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psia
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*0.00109)-15.73
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP kpa OBS
Short name: MAP
Min value: 0
Max value: 1000
Scale: x1
Unit: kpa
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*0.00752)-109.25
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #2
Mode/PID: 221445
Long name: Exhaust Back Pressure 7.3
Short name: EBP
Min value: 0
Max value: 75
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: (((A*256)+B*0.03625)-6.5
Header: Auto
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 22114A
Long name: IATf OBS
Short name: IATf
Min value: 0
Max value: 100
Scale: x1
Unit: f
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*-0.00370)+193.39
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: Boost OBS
Short name: Boost
Min value: 0
Max value: 60
Scale: x1
Unit: psi
Equation: ((((A*256)+B*0.00109)-15.73)-Baro()
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/14 seems to read psia

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP frequency OBS
Short name: MAPf
Min value: 100
Max value: 256
Scale: x1
Unit: Hz
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*0.00395
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 22114A
Long name: IAT volt OBS
Short name: IATv
Min value: 0
Max value: 5
Scale: x1
Unit: V
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/11099
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP OBS
Short name: MAP
Min value: 0
Max value: 50
Scale: x1
Unit: psia
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*0.00109)-15.73
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221452
Long name: MAP kpa OBS
Short name: MAP
Min value: 0
Max value: 1000
Scale: x1
Unit: kpa
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*0.00752)-109.25
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221127
Long name: Baro1 OBS
Short name: Baro27
Min value: 0
Max value: 20
Scale: x1
Unit: psia
Equation: A*0.1
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221442
Long name: Baro2 OBS
Short name: Baro42
Min value: 0
Max value: 20
Scale: x1
Unit: psia
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/4.01463133)*0.145038
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221442
Long name: Baro kpa OBS
Short name: Baro
Min value: 0
Max value: 100
Scale: x1
Unit: kpa
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/4.01463133
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014

Mode/PID: 221442
Long name: Baro inH2O OBS
Short name: Baro
Min value: 0
Max value: 100
Scale: x1
Unit: inH2O
Equation: (A*256)+B
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Mode/PID: 2211BD
Long name: TFT V OBS
Short name: TFT V
Min value: 0
Max value: 5
Scale: x1
Unit: V
Equation: ((A*256)+B)/11099
Header: C410F1
comments: 12/01/2014 untested
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,049 Posts
Thanks man. Im confused but working it out. This app is awsome. Should have my blue tooth adapter this week and can start logging info.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,563 Posts
I'm assuming that all of that data is what you use to program the app for measuring certain parameters?

For those of us who haven't used it or haven't even seen it, throw us a bone what all of that is.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
It is an app that allows you to monitor what the computer already sees in our trucks via the sensors. If you buy a Bluetooth obd11 plug (I have had good luck with the one from newegg.com less than $20.00) and the torque app (around $7.00) it saves hundreds on external gauges.

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,059 Posts
Hmm I might have to look into this . Just wanting to hear if they prove accurate & where u guys have ur phones mounted so u can see them
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
The free version allows you to read codes on newer vehicles. You will need to buy the pro version to be able to monitor our trucks. Once you install the purchased version you will need to add the "power stroke pids" but the OBS 7.3 is limited in what it monitors with those pids. There has been some guys figuring out the formulas on a different forum for OBS 7.3 and the info in the first post is what you will need to add custom pids for our trucks as the app doesn't have them in the "power stroke pids"

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,059 Posts
So what is needed for the use of a android smart phone to be used as the gauges? I'm looking for this Bluetooth cord or adapter or whatever
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
I tried a cheap ebay chinese adapter and though it sorta worked Torque would report errors and warning pop ups, so I bought the known 'good' one for over $100
PLX Kiwi Bluetooth | OBD2 OBDII Android

the Torque app has a menu that shows it will connect by WiFi or USB (it says requires Android 4.0 device and a few other criteria)

as for accuracy, the raw data is exactly what the PCM is seeing, the formula is up to 'us' to get correct. which is the point of the thread.
the more people using it, the more data we have to feed to 'smart' math guys to tweak the formula. I am NOT the 'smart math guys'.

MAFo pointed out that I was posting in a chaotic format, so I am trying to clean it up a bit :) open to suggestions on improvements

csp, that is exactly what it is, laid out in the order that you input from the "Add a Custom PID" menu, but I added a 'comments' line so we can make sure what we find is current and not months old.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
mj I was using an older formula (((A*256)+B)*0.00314)+193.93 you posted on the super duty side of this site for my IAT F° for OBS. It seems closer to what I would expect for air temps. What's your opinion? When I use the newer formula it is about 20° colder than actual outside temps.

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
mj I was using an older formula (((A*256)+B)*0.00314)+193.93 you posted on the super duty side of this site for my IAT F° for OBS. It seems closer to what I would expect for air temps. What's your opinion? When I use the newer formula it is about 20° colder than actual outside temps.

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
sounds like great info :) is that using the header and PID I posted?

IAT is a work in progress, if that one seems more accurate then we run with it :) my bad for not denoting that in comments

this mornings updates on IAT I was to test are

IAT °C
(((A*256)+B)*-0.00206)+103.61 ?
IAT °F
(((A*256)+B)*-0.00370)+218.5 ?

being Canadian, the temps in °F are foreign to me
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,549 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
can someone with an aotumatic post the readings they get for 'TFT V'?
probably a 'stone cold' before starting it reading and an operating temp
did anyone try the super duty formula using the OBS header and PID?
 

·
Squeezing out Torque...
Joined
·
157 Posts
can someone with an aotumatic post the readings they get for 'TFT V'?
probably a 'stone cold' before starting it reading and an operating temp
did anyone try the super duty formula using the OBS header and PID?
Have an AT, but I'm still down running wise...

Wanted to thank you for splitting this out, was getting confused and frustrated, trying out PID's for newer, that just didn't work on our older OBS PSD'ss.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
I'll get you a volt reading on a dead cold trans either today after work or tomorrow morning. When I entered it Sunday night it worked and around 4.4 if memory serves me right with mid 30's air temp. Also has anyone had luck with an OBD Y splitter using Torque and AE at the same time?

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
59 Posts
sounds like great info :) is that using the header and PID I posted?

IAT is a work in progress, if that one seems more accurate then we run with it :) my bad for not denoting that in comments

this mornings updates on IAT I was to test are

IAT °C
(((A*256)+B)*-0.00206)+103.61 ?
IAT °F
(((A*256)+B)*-0.00370)+218.5 ?

being Canadian, the temps in °F are foreign to me
Yes the equation I am using has the same pid but I used auto for the header. I'll try the one you posted for F° above and see what I get for temps and then compare each. I'll also compare both to a digital thermometer.

Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
 

·
Squeezing out Torque...
Joined
·
157 Posts
Also has anyone had luck with an OBD Y splitter using Torque and AE at the same time?
Me... It WORKS (briefly). Then it does not.

Both will connect. But then AE drops the connect after a few minutes. On a reconnect, then the truck started missing. I think it was cross-talking and confused the PCM. I think for comparing data, would be fine breifly... But, after that experiene, I would not drive that way.
-Mike
 
1 - 20 of 346 Posts
Top