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Discussion starter · #42 · (Edited)
P,N=90
R=110
D=90
2nd gear=90
1st gear =100

according to your sheet that’s amazing pressures?

stall test .

r=330
D=200ish.
1st Gear=240-245
2nd gear 200ish

so that means the pump is fine?

i think i should check the wiring again, did some research and found this:


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here it says “all diesels are PWM” which isn’t true, my 97 7.3 is on or off, but the main point is the ohm testing for the solonoid connector. maybe the resistance of these could be a possible culprit?
 
Discussion starter · #44 ·
Your pump figures look ok BUT that is not an indicator of valving. For example: Trump’s heart is putting out but his swollen feet, swollen ankles along with bruising of his hands, the valving in his veins are is working properly.
In summary:
Pump gears are kosher.
Trans works ok until fluid heats up…
Hydro fluid superheats as it passes thru a leak under pressure.
Trans not working properly with hot oil. Hot oil makes hydros not work properly when hydro has excessive wear.
And the world goes around and around.
 
Discussion starter · #47 ·
Your pump figures look ok BUT that is not an indicator of valving. For example: Trump’s heart is putting out but his swollen feet, swollen ankles along with bruising of his hands, the valving in his veins are is working properly.
In summary:
Pump gears are kosher.
Trans works ok until fluid heats up…
Hydro fluid superheats as it passes thru a leak under pressure.
Trans not working properly with hot oil. Hot oil makes hydros not work properly when hydro has excessive wear.
And the world goes around and around.
so even though my pump APPEARS fine (within spec pressures), on the inside things can still be wrong, as we are experiencing here with leaky valves, etc. basically the pressure test isn’t going to be able to tell me how things are REALLY performing?
 
so even though my pump APPEARS fine (within spec pressures), on the inside things can still be wrong, as we are experiencing here with leaky valves, etc. basically the pressure test isn’t going to be able to tell me how things are REALLY performing?
Pump has valving ( look at diagram of pump that I think that I posted) that have nothing to do with the gear pump housed in “ pump body “.
Valve body performance has no real relation to the pump’s output.
No codes, shift pack ok (?) and it’s circuitry, ok in stock until hot= internal leakage, say I. Run my rational by an other tech and I believe there will be concurrence.
 
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Discussion starter · #52 ·
Pump has valving ( look at diagram of pump that I think that I posted) that have nothing to do with the gear pump housed in “ pump body “.
Valve body performance has no real relation to the pump’s output.
No codes, shift pack ok (?) and it’s circuitry, ok in stock until hot= internal leakage, say I. Run my rational by an other tech and I believe there will be concurrence.
got it i’ll be pulling the trans this weekend.
 
Discussion starter · #53 · (Edited)
I gave you charts for ohming.
I gave you a chart that identifies pins at pack connector and at PCM.
so the plug on the right is the plug that connects to the connector on the left correct? the “vehicle harness connector” connects to the “solonoid pack connector”? coming home from an excruciating day of work. bare with me please.
 
so the solenoid body connector and vehicle harness connector are the 2 plugs that run from pcm to trans correct? one goes to mlps and the other goes to the solinoid pack? so i’m not doing any “pin” test to the solinoid itself correct? coming home from an excruciating day of work. bare with me please.
I am sorry buddy, Chart I gave you is ok for ohming pack. I think PCM connector will be the same but not positive, it is out of a 4R100 book. Go by colors or ask Mark for a schematic. Temp will not effect it’s circuitry. Trmp is effecting your trans per You.
Why isn’t your builder dealing with all of this? He built it. It has an issue. You do not own the tools, equipment and resources.
Mark Kivalsky,You are need in bay 4 with this guy.
 
Discussion starter · #55 · (Edited)
Mark Kivalsky,You are need in bay 4 with this guy.
hahahahahaahahaha


Why isn’t your builder dealing with all of this? He built it. It has an issue.
well he already declared it a pump issue and told me to pull it. I want to make SURE that it’s nothing on my end and not waste my time doing this job. it’s a 390k mile truck. and my old trans did the same damn thing. hopefully you can see my view. i want to do every test i can to make sure it’s TRUELY NOTHING on me. i checked VSS, swapped pcms, got a new tune, ‘checked’ and clean the connectors, but i never TESTED the wiring. that’s all i want is what connectors to test and make sure im testing the right ones. so i will test the solonoid pack and see whats up, but how should i test the wiring from pcm to the connector? continuity test?
 
Read photos. Connectors are clearly labeled on the pages. Solenoid pack is on the passenger side of trans.
He built it and you are pulling it. Makes no sense. Do you have s trans floorjack and asphalt or concrete? Do you get the pump out, then what? You have s transmission stand? You don’t have trans tools.
You are getting in over your head.
He built it. He bragged on it. It has issues and he is telling you to deal with it.
“ No way, guy. You deal with it”
 
Discussion starter · #57 ·
Read photos. Connectors are clearly labeled on the pages. Solenoid pack is on the passenger side of trans.
He built it and you are pulling it. Makes no sense. Do you have s trans floorjack and asphalt or concrete? Do you get the pump out, then what? You have s transmission stand? You don’t have trans tools.
You are getting in over your head.
He built it. He bragged on it. It has issues and he is telling you to deal with it.
“ No way, guy. You deal with it”
he doesn’t pull or install. i do that and yes i have a trans jack as well as a nice garage to do it in. all i do is the labor of installing and uninstalling and he does the actual work to the trans work. definitely see where your coming from however.
 
he doesn’t pull or install. i do that and yes i have a trans jack as well as a nice garage to do it in. all i do is the labor of installing and uninstalling and he does the actual work to the trans work. definitely see where your coming from however.
Ok, I understand BUT he has said, “ The pump is bad, pull it”. If the valving in the pump is bad, He should have known that before he put the trans together,SO… You are doing his free come back labor. Not how it works!
 
Just a casual reader of this thread but if you need a pinout of the PCM Connector (C1027), here are the two variations for a 97 (49-state and California). Cheers!
 

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