Ford Power Stroke Nation banner

1 - 20 of 21 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Good morning all,

I've been searching a bit but would like input from people who have owned a 6.4l. I'm looking at purchasing a 6.4l powerstroke...am I crazy? These trucks really appeal to me. I've had experience with many diesels over my short 30 years from a 6.9l IDI to a 6.0l powerstroke to my current 5.9l common rail. How much work is needed to do typical maintenance on these engines? I've searched a little bit and know that the engine can be pulled with the turbos on and cab on. My old 6.0l was no issue working on it with the cab on. My old Dodge is starting to get old on me. I still owe on it for the next 4 years with 320k on the clock. I know thats not too many miles on the cummins but its more of the 47re that I worry about. The 6.4l is much peppier, has a better transmission, will pull what I need to and rides much but with more luxury then my current truck. Basically, if the 6.4l has emissions in tact should I run or just plan on deleting asap? Talk me out of it with your experience, not hearsay internet BS.

THANKS!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
Save your money and just get a 6.7. You will be sorry you got the 6.4.
 

·
Professional American, guarding our constitution.
Joined
·
9,453 Posts
This is out of the question. I can’t afford a 6.7 at this time.
If you can get an already deleted and tuned 6.4 go for it...

I get chit all the time because of my love for this motor. I agree to some extent that out of the box from stock it's a nightmare with it's radiator and fuel and every other issue. It sucks to have to throw upwards of ten grand at something you just threw a wheelbarrow of money at just to work on more.

That said, by today, I'd be leery of a stock 6.4 having run all these years not unjunked. I have an 08 and an 09, both tuned at the expiration of the warranty and I've not had a single major issue.
 

·
Project Shamu
Joined
·
2,860 Posts
If you can't afford a 2013+ 6.7 (the good years from what I've read), then you definitely can't afford a 6.4's repairs lol.

I know 6.4s can make RETARDED amounts of Hp and Tq, but even in stock form they are not a reliable engine... there's a reason a lot of shops will not work on them anymore, including Ford dealers.
 

·
Professional American, guarding our constitution.
Joined
·
9,453 Posts
If you can't afford a 2013+ 6.7 (the good years from what I've read), then you definitely can't afford a 6.4's repairs lol.

I know 6.4s can make RETARDED amounts of Hp and Tq, but even in stock form they are not a reliable engine... there's a reason a lot of shops will not work on them anymore, including Ford dealers.
"......but even in stock form....". Should say "ESPECIALLY in stock form.

In what I've thrown into two 6.4's I could've almost bought another truck. But you can get in either of those two trucks, mash the go pedal in 4wd on dry pavement and they'll spin round and round in a smoke filled circle.
 

·
Professional American, guarding our constitution.
Joined
·
9,453 Posts
To clarify my original "I'd be leery" statement... you can pick up stock 6.4's fairly cheap today. But to make it right you gotta dump some money in it and I don't know how well a motor that was condom-ized for that many years would react to suddenly being able to breathe. Fuel pump, valve train, all of it's weak parts suddenly getting called on to do twice the oomph...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
If you can get an already deleted and tuned 6.4 go for it...

I get chit all the time because of my love for this motor. I agree to some extent that out of the box from stock it's a nightmare with it's radiator and fuel and every other issue. It sucks to have to throw upwards of ten grand at something you just threw a wheelbarrow of money at just to work on more.

That said, by today, I'd be leery of a stock 6.4 having run all these years not unjunked. I have an 08 and an 09, both tuned at the expiration of the warranty and I've not had a single major issue.
Thank you for your input. The two trucks I'm looking at are both deleted & tuned with both also having the radiator replaced and good service history according to the car fax. The problem with a high mileage 6.7 is not being able to get financed. Also, just because I cant afford a decent 6.7 right now doesnt mean I cant afford parts for a 6.4 as I do my own maintenance and repairs.
 

·
Professional American, guarding our constitution.
Joined
·
9,453 Posts
If you can find a 6.4 that got the bed plate fixed, proper radiator, went thru one or five warranty overhauls and was deleted and tuned when the warranty ran out you'll have a rocket ship.

The 6.7.......... :vomit:
 

·
sooty
Joined
·
409 Posts
If you can find a 6.4 that got the bed plate fixed, proper radiator, went thru one or five warranty overhauls and was deleted and tuned when the warranty ran out you'll have a rocket ship.

The 6.7.......... :vomit:
Not sure why you hate them so much, easier to work on, parts are a fraction of the price, the trucks have more amenities and they reliably hold the same power as a delete tuned six four.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,947 Posts
I guess the bigger question is what are you going to use the truck for?

The only 6.4 I would remotely consider is one that has been deleted since near new IMO. One that has lived with the emissions equipment for a long time is likey a time bomb. However, both engines (6.4 and 6.7) have their issues. Personally I like the 6.7 better but to each their own. The 6.4 will give you gobs if power but the 6.7 will outlast the 6.4 in terms of longetivity and reliability. The transmissions are generally stronger in the 6.7 (6R140) than the 5R110 behind the 6.4 but you can build the 5R to hold plenty of power.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
I guess the bigger question is what are you going to use the truck for?

The only 6.4 I would remotely consider is one that has been deleted since near new IMO. One that has lived with the emissions equipment for a long time is likey a time bomb. However, both engines (6.4 and 6.7) have their issues. Personally I like the 6.7 better but to each their own. The 6.4 will give you gobs if power but the 6.7 will outlast the 6.4 in terms of longetivity and reliability. The transmissions are generally stronger in the 6.7 (6R140) than the 5R110 behind the 6.4 but you can build the 5R to hold plenty of power.
The truck will be used for hauling equipment occasionally, tractors, dingos, etc. The main use will be transporting cattle and my wife’s goats to and from fairs as well as be my daily driver. I may just say screw it and keep the cummins. I don’t know yet. Researching as much as possible. I do my own work so I’m not worried about labor bills. Parts being cheaper for the 6.7 is a plus but as I said previously, the 6.4 is more in my price range at this moment.
 

·
sooty
Joined
·
409 Posts
Seeing as six sevens can be had for 15k and under, I'm not sure why anyone would go down the heart break road of a sic four
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
Seeing as six sevens can be had for 15k and under, I'm not sure why anyone would go down the heart break road of a sic four
Please show me where you have found a crew cab 4x4 without 200k for 15k and under. I haven’t had that kind of luck except for one cc flatbed that has 334k on it for $17,900.
 

·
Professional American, guarding our constitution.
Joined
·
9,453 Posts
You pulling 5th wheel or pintle hook? I destroyed the frame of my 5th wheel '14 pulling the same machines I do with a pintle hook lowboy and my 08 & 09's....
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
I bought a stock 2010 6.4 a few years ago with 110k on the clock. The first month I owned it I dropped the emissions equipment. Boy, what a difference! It's been 40k miles later and it still is running very very strong. My dad has a 2011 6.7 and his is always in the shop. The only major repair I've had was recently I replaced the steering box, drag link and tie rod ends. Maybe I got a good one? Idk. But so far I've been very pleased with this 6.4.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
1 - 20 of 21 Posts
Top