What was wrong with your dual HPOP? I've had no issues with mine

 

And an adrenaline or stealth 1.1 is your next best option. Those will support the oil you need

 

Pumps have gone out 3 times. various reasons from leaking seals to shaft. had them out 3 times and sent back and getting tired of it. I know lots of guys running them with zero issues, but not these for some reason

 

They are warranted. If you want to fling crap about your duals, let's tell the whole story, instead of half. Shall I, or would you like to?oke:

Btw, I spoke to Don D about this. Looking at the pics, you are Martin or your speaking for him? Are you even sure you have a pump problem? Still waiting to here back from Don D, your Diesel Tech.....

 

Beans doesn't make the Honeybadger....... Dyno Proven - NEW NAME! does. Formerly known as No Limit Tuning & Design. 190cc injector? Honeybadger Jr would support those sticks. It's a medium oil hpop. They will be releasing the Honeybadger Sr any day now. They were waiting on a supplier. The SR will handle ANY injector.

 

the Jr is stock displacement pump with housing mods, not 'medium' oil.

 

So would the senior be a better choice and totally support these 190cc's

 

I have no clue how oil hungry 190s would be. I would bet the Jr would feed them fine and would be a fine choice.
price wise I think I just saw it on their site for $799, and an srp1.1 is advertised on whites for $899.
to me that $100 buys you a pump that can feed any injector you can run on the street and is currently the only pump in that class.
the honeybadgerSR is trying to be their competitor but is not available yet from what I have read.

is 190 as far as you will ever go?




I have 350/200 hybrids and an srp1.1

 

I think later, possible go hybrids larger than what is installed now

 

stock pistons and stock 17° swash plate = stock displacement.
unless they have changed it since the release thread on PSA.

 

Once again, you are wrong about the T-500, there are internal changes to increase displacement. Gary Steicher uses a different method to increase displacement than TE but since you have never taken yours apart, you don't know for sure how Gary did it and what other internal changes he has made.

Which is strange since you say people who don't inspect their own stuff are just TAKING IT ON FAITH. I guess you just like talking out of both sides of your mouth.

I've had my Dual Terminator apart and reassembled, did the same to a 15*, 17* and a T-500. Also checked out the internals of a Stealth. (Gary has re-engineered several internal pieces, probably more than you think.)

What's your experience with a hpop, mj, other than being a googlemaniac?

 

Srp1.1 or the honey badger sr would support those. I assume they're bcodes, there was a few billet stealth stage 2 on psa not too long ago

 

thank you, if it where up to me, I would go with the badger sr. reading good things about the jr, so I would imagine the Sr would be nice. But its not my call. Would there have to be new tuning done if, big if my friend went with a different pump? I know he is very happy with his tunes and the way his truck runs!

 

from the release thread. odd it doesnt mention 200% nozzles that are claimed 'all day' in this thread

Just to be clear: There are 2 pumps the Honey Badger Jr. and the Honey Badger.

The Jr. will be able to hande any injector up to and including 238/100
how bout.... a rock steady 2850 psi at 45% DC..this is the one being released today

 

There has been over 200 pumps put into service. Honeybadger Jr has proven to flow some oil. It's also been dyo proven in more combinations. The Honeybadger Sr will save guys big money over all the other big oil options.

 

you are making statements that are not backed up by available facts.
additionally there is current NOT a Sr pump available so how can you recommend it as an alternate?

How much does it increase flow?

We are working on getting a solid # for this to show increase over a stock pump. We do know it will easily maintain pressure at a low DC with injectors up to 250cc. Other pumps may advertise support for up to 285cc injectors and while the HB JR very well may do that no problem we would rather undersell the pump then over sell it. It has also been tested with 300cc injectors and with the right tuning will hold 3000psi. This does not mean that it will perform that way for everyone because of the difference in injectors and tuning

 

Why on earth did a truck running 190cc injectors have a dual hpop setup?

 

1. Because it doesn't hurt anything.
2. It leaves you room to go to bigger injectors later.
3. Two pumps are better than one.
4. You build more pressure faster.
5. You get the idea.

 

:whs:

But aside from that, why 2 pumps (called 'runners', so Id assume they work pretty good) work one day then stop pumping the next, makes no sense. There is far more to this story then we've been told. I hope that Joey has reached the point to give this dude his money back -- at least he wouldnt have to deal with this buddy anymore.

 

:whs:

But aside from that, why 2 pumps (called 'runners', so Id assume they work pretty good) work one day then stop pumping the next, makes no sense. There is far more to this story then we've been told. I hope that Joey has reached the point to give this dude his money back -- at least he wouldnt have to deal with this buddy anymore.

Well, that maybe a great idea, but the customer that is not here posting, needs to pay for them first.:doh:
Fact: He purchased a used set of pumps that someone tried to repair blown fittings......"tried"....., failed....., they leaked. I tried to repair them and they continued to leak......
The customer then reached me and asked for options. The best option was to replace both pumps, because they were damaged..... He asked me to order him two new Bosch pumps, so I did. On Don D's word, I shipped them back to Don and the customer made a payment. The second payment was never met.

That's the short of it. Now, speaking to Don, I told him I will gladly repair them free of charge, but only after payment is complete. Fair enough?

Offer still stands.

 

I've argued nothing. You ignored almost my entire last post. Bottom line is that the Jr. Produces more volume......In turn it's been DynoProven to handle bigger sticks with aggressive pulse width.

You'll read a lot more once the DynoProven open house next weekend is over.

 

where did you find it produces more volume? this is a fiction. if it is not then what numbers are claimed?

even Mr Terminator just stated the same thing, but he doesnt state what that angle is in the t500s

Obviously, by not changing swashplate angle and piston diameter, flow volume will not increase.

devilish details are not going to increace displacement of a pump, unless there was a serious bottleneck.
so far all I have read from other posters is there was minimal gains in porting at stock displacement and no hard numbers came out of the HBjr threads.
plenty of hype but no data.

 

Joey has always stood behind his products, behind the scenes as well as on forums. Many times when he didn't have to. I remember one guys pump got replaced....for free.....azzhole didn't have it coming or deserve a new pump.

 

Joey, you have the patience of a saint. It's amazing adults need spokesmen and that grievances need to be put on the internet when they can't bend you over on a warranty that is already more than fair. Sounds like a positive ending.

 

LOLFunny how these hpop threads always turn Into wars.

 

I said you took it on faith about the Stealth since you never checked what was in it. You are the one against taking things on faith per things like the BTS threads. So you are full of it.

The KASB I bought was recommended to me by *** to do what I wanted which was good enough for me. Never said I didn't take things on faith. Have checked out a few HPOPs though.

Just crack open that pump and look at it. There's interesting things going on in there. Faith problem on your part would be solved, mr. two face.

Or is this another one of your expressions of comprehension difficulties?

 

LoL
I do know whats in it.
I don't know whats in a T500 which is why I didnt buy one. no faith in secret squirrels.

you have been telling me since at least July my srp was gonna fail but it keeps going strong.
when it fails I told you I would post up the images. dont hold your breath waiting.
I painted everything bright yellow so I can show you all the leaks in pics....but it dont leak a drop, sorry about that.

 

Srrange you keep bringing up other stuff, I'm talking faith on your part.

You have said others are taking it on faith since they didn't inspect their BTSs. Performance didn't count. You have expressed the same attitude in other threads.

You said you don't take things on faith...

You still haven't verified the innards of your own pump or probably your injectors either. Skip what you read on the internet, just show the pictures of the innards of your own stuff taken by you. Otherwise its just faith on your part.

Now, is that too hard for you to understand? Oh,thats right, you haven't checked. Faith.....

Faith in action. When you do it, its OK. When others do it, they are dumb.

 

I dont care what you talk about Dave. its usually off topic like this is again

 

That's right, when you get pinned in, you just claim irrelevance and dodge the issue. You take plenty on faith despite what you claim.LOLLOLLOL

 

I am honestly surprised by this situation. I had a great experience with Joey when I ordered my pump from him. Joey definitely didn't seem to be a guy that'd give a customer a hard time with his product. Hope this gets resolved for both parties.

 

Joey is good people.