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So I was looking for a coolant leak and this is what I found.:doh:

I changed the oil cooler o-rings and noticed I was still loosing coolant, but I was just getting a film in the crankcase. So then I pulled all of the injectors and checked for a cup leaking. Didn't find anything wrong there so I figured it had to be a head gasket. Since the inside of the drivers side valve cover looked worse than the pass. side, I removed that head first. The gasket was leaking into #2 cylinder. I don't know what would've caused the damage to the top of the piston because the head looks good and the glowplug tip is still there. You can't tell in the pic but there's a ridge down the side of the cylinder wall also.

Currently this is where I'm at on the project now.
 

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So I was looking for a coolant leak and this is what I found.:doh:

I changed the oil cooler o-rings and noticed I was still loosing coolant, but I was just getting a film in the crankcase. So then I pulled all of the injectors and checked for a cup leaking. Didn't find anything wrong there so I figured it had to be a head gasket. Since the inside of the drivers side valve cover looked worse than the pass. side, I removed that head first. The gasket was leaking into #2 cylinder. I don't know what would've caused the damage to the top of the piston because the head looks good and the glowplug tip is still there. You can't tell in the pic but there's a ridge down the side of the cylinder wall also.

Currently this is where I'm at on the project now.
Just don't tell us you are going to the dark side. :doh:
 

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Well that's another long a$$ story. I bought a used 96 psd.:badidea:
Wanna hear the whole story?:doh:
 

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I'll do my best.
Bigdogg over at TDS had a '96 motor with 96K on it. He told me it was complete, ready to drop in and run. It came out of a buddys truck that got t-boned in the bed in NC. He didn't have compression #'s but said it was running good when they pulled it. I paid him $2600 for it shipped from Somerset,PA to SW Kansas. From the day he received my cashiers check it took him 30 days to get me the motor. Said he was gone and the freight company didn't get it picked up. When I received the motor it had a shipping label that said Big Dog Sales on it, even though I sent him a check in his name. Once I got the saran wrap off the motor I noticed alot of things wrong with it. For one they used a cut up seat belt tied trhu the lift eyes to lift it with. That along with the shipping label made me think it came from a salvage yard, one thing I was trying to stay away from. The dipstick is held in the oil pan with a bunch of rtv, it has a broken exhaust manifold bolt, the intake is missing along with the fuel filter canister, the cps and the complete wiring and a few other sensors. The oil pan itself is all beat up and the turbo looks trashed. And for only having 96K on it I think it's unusual that the hpop has been replaced and the fuel lines from the fuel pump have been replaced. It also has a drivers side vc that has a filler neck or something like it coming up on the front side of it. He did give me his phone # so when I finally got ahold of him he said that he runs a truck repair shop and his helper was taking some of the items off that motor because they were going to put it in his personal pickup, but it was going to take to much to convert it to the newer style so he found a newer motor and decided to use it and sell this one. He said all the missing parts were probably on the workbench and he would send them to me. That was over month ago. He never would comment on the other problems just kept talking around them. Then I lost him on the phone. Now he won't return any of my pm's thru TDS and won't return my phone messages I leave him.

Click on my Webshots link and then click on the PSD Motor link to see a few pics of the motor I received. It should be all the pics on the first page in that album.
 

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I told you guys it was long.

Try the link again, I think I fixed it.
 

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Damn sorry you got hosed. I had saw his ads over there and wondered how he always had stuff. Sounds more like he has a wrecking yard.

Tom
 

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This guy posted on one of bigdogg's threads about needing a trans so I emailed him asking about Tom, and this is the replies back and forth.


"Hey, I saw your post on Bigdoggs truck ad at TDS about needing a trans.
Have you dealt with Tom before on used parts? If so
does he get them from a salvage yard or just happen
to come up with all these parts? Thanks


Hi,

This is what Tom does for a living. He travels all
over, from Mass to Miss buying wrecked rebuildable,
or cheap trucks that might need a bit of work done,
or if he finds a truck that is good for parts only,
he buys it and takes it apart and sells the parts he
doesn't need, and uses the parts he does. He does
this stuff for profit, but the trucks he comes up
with are gems. Everything is worth the money, if he
is selling it.




Lance,
Sorry to hear about the bad deal you had with him. I did not know him to be that way. I have never received any junk from him, and I have seen some of the trucks he has bought and parted out. I sold him my 92 IDI and he parted it out. I could have done the same thing, and gotten more money, but I didn't want to go through the hassle of tearing it all apart and doing all the advertising. The only thing bad I could say about him is that he bragged about how cheap he bought a truck, and without doing anything to it, he turned around and sold it for a $5000 profit in one week. That's not something that anyone should brag about doing. He does take advantage of TDS to make money and find cheap stuff. I never would do something like that.

Again, sorry to hear about the troubles with him. I found a transmission shop willing to do up my transmission for $1850 and make it better than new. The shop owner is involved in truck and tractor pulls and he pulls with a 2000 7.3L automatic and wins almost every contest he enters, so I am willing to trust him with my transmission.

Thanks for the heads up about your bad dealing with Tom. I am not sure if you posted this on TDS or not, but if you haven't, you deffinitely should. Tom should not be allowed to take advantage of the website for his own personal gain, and to rip people off makes it even worse.

Hope everything works out for you,"



So after talking with this guy it proves that he is using the TDS site to sell all these trucks and parts to make a living. At least I saved this guy from getting burnt with a bad transmission from him.
 

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Ok, now back to the motor issue. What's the difference between a '95 and a '96 waterpump? They are listed '94-95 and '96-97. I have a damn near brand new one on the '95 motor I'm pulling and would like to reuse it on the '96 motor I'll have to put in and hope everything works out. Just wondering if it'll work, and what other parts might not crossover, or does evrything cross?
 

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The lower neck is a cast piece on the 94-95, and pipe on the newer. Should work just fine. The HPOP res. is also different on the 94-95 trucks. The 96 and up are more desirable to prevent bleed down issues.
 

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Thanks. I knew the hpop res. was a better design on the 96, so I can install a 17* hpop and not have the bleed down issues. Anything else I should be aware of before I install it?
 

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The 94.5 and 95 WP ia designed for the short stem thermostat and the 96 and later uses a long stem stat.

Also from the pic of your piston it looks like a glow plug beat up the piston. Is that a chunk of GP stuck in it?
 

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No, thats just a piece of crap that fell in there. If it was a glowplug it had to be from a previous owner and the guy I bought it from put 100K on it and didn't say anything about having to pull a head. Thats what I thought it looked like too.

I have to swap the pans on these motors so should I put a new oil pump in or maybe replace the rear main while I'm there?
 

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If the rear main isn't leaking now I wouldn't touch it unless it seems brittle. oil pump hard to say. If you have the money I suppose it would the time.

On the Glow plug. it looks like the tip is embedded in the piston. The damage right at the edge of the bowl. it looks like the tip is in there then the other damage to the top of the piston looks like it banged around in there for a while. let me see if I can download the pics and do a bit of drawning.
 

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well I can't download the pic but after blowing it up in webshots I am certain there is a glowplug tip stuck in the piston. i know it doesn't change your situation but the glow plug is at a 45 degree angle face up toward the left and it comes right to the edge of the combustion camber in the piston. you can also see impressions of the glow plug being pounded around on the top of the piston on the left side. Did you really ever figure out where the coolant was coming from? Any bad spot in the head gasket?
 

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Yeah, the head gasket looked damaged at the lower left side of the #2 chamber.
I don't really have alot of extra money to do what I want to with this motor because I got [email protected]#ked by Bigdogg but I would like to do what I can while I have it out so I don't have to pull it again any time soon.
 

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Is there a casting # on the block somwhere that will tell me what year it actually is? Because if the waterpumps are supposed to be different between 95 & 96, this new motor has the same waterpump that my old motor has.

On a good note I got my old motor out yesterday.:redspotdance: I had to let the air out of the front tires to get the engine over the radiator support and grille guard, but it's out so I can start taking the rest of the good parts off of it to swap over to the other motor.
 
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