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so today i was talking to my dealer about the new trucks and when i would see one there, they weren't sure but they did say that at the meeting that the expected fuel economy would start with a 2. this is a reliable source, so anyone else heard other wise?
 

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wow , so it is very real?
 

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its still a powerstroke, id expect 12/15.....when its not in the shop :poke:
 

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It's all in the piston bowls........ International should have wised up to the Cummins style bowls years ago..... Now we have Cummins technology in a Powerstroke.
 

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The best I've ever gotten on my 6.0 was 19.1 on a best mileage run to the beach.
I'm usually getting 15.5 in mixed driving when not towing.
If the new truck could get better actual mileage I'd be all over it.
 

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haha..figured that would get someone all fired up.
but ill still have to see it to belive it, im just getting tired of the let down of owning a powerstroke. it would be cool if ford could finally get an engine worth a sh!t though :D
 

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if it realy gets that milleage i wont give a damn about the auto only bs, ill be driving one of the brand new trucks in a year or two.
 

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I can tell you all something from the Agriculture side, Agco tractor's recently went to urea injection side and it's SISU engine, but we've had 6 of these high horse tractors before going to a Urea injection unit, and we gainned 45 horse (thats a lot in a tractor because the torque is so high) and actually saw a 30 to 35% fuel eco. increase. --- no chips no programers no nothing stock VS. stock so I personally believe there really getting 17city and 22highway, there probablly not driving those truccks like we would but It'd have increase a lot
 

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All urea motors are getting a significant improvement in fuel economy. Two reasons. Less egr and more in cylinder nox.
 

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I can tell you all something from the Agriculture side, Agco tractor's recently went to urea injection side and it's SISU engine, but we've had 6 of these high horse tractors before going to a Urea injection unit, and we gainned 45 horse (thats a lot in a tractor because the torque is so high) and actually saw a 30 to 35% fuel eco. increase. --- no chips no programers no nothing stock VS. stock so I personally believe there really getting 17city and 22highway, there probablly not driving those truccks like we would but It'd have increase a lot
The companies going with CEGR & DPF instead of SCR for Tier 4A are going to be hurting for economy.

I've heard from someone who is communicates closely with some of the Tier4 AG application engineers that the pre-scr emissions (between engine/turbo and the SCR injection & reaction chamber) on a Tier4A engine could be close to Tier2 standards for most operating conditions.
 
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