I'd leave it to the pros but that's just me.......

 

The pro's had to learn someway LOL it's a fairly simple design. I have one at the shop I'm going to pull apart to see what kind of voodoo is inside.

 

biggest problem is where do you get the seals or internal parts from?

 

whats the worse that can happen?? give it a shot!

 

Hey if you don't care let me know what you find. I'm going to look around and see if I can find a place to buy parts for one. If I find anything worth mentioning I'll send the info to you. I don't think they would be complicated, the main thing to go wrong with one would have to be seals or o-rings.
Thanks for the reply

 

I just got all the stuff to rebuild my injectors waiting on springs but I got new plunger an barrels an nozzles they're not tha complicated...

 

Comparing Injectors to a hpop is like apples to oranges.......

 

yea but u said youd leave injectors to the pros, theyre not that bad, i dont think a hpop would be either jmo...

 

Are you going to run the injectors on a flow bench?

But yes I'll leave the injectors and hpop to the pros....I'll install the stuff on my truck but I like having the warranty if it fails.

 

without a flowbench I would think it would be a risk. HPOP would deffinately be left to a pro in my book.

 

I read a writeup by some guys who looked into the HPOP to try and solve some issues. They said that it took them 20 hours of machine work to build the presses and tools necessary to press everything back together. One of their conclusions was that it was not something that someone without the proper tools would want to attempt.

 

the right tool for the job is a phone

...call dieselsite or terminator to set up a drop shipment/ core exchange..hpop is not worth messing with.

 

The point is that while you can take them apart and may get it back together, what have you saved?? Terminator can have an HPOP with a warranty on your doorstep for $500.

Injectors are the same thing-- been there, done that on the rebuilds and took them to the shop for bench work. They worked fine and were pretty balanced, but were never right. I learned a ton but would never do it again when I saw how invested the shop was in the special tools.

 

They make these parts so the unfortunate home mechanic has to pay for there service. They call it job security and we call it getting boned......There finding more and more ways to do away with the DIY and im glad by the time they all totally do away with the DYI ill be dead and gone lol....

 

They make these parts so the unfortunate home mechanic has to pay for there service. They call it job security and we call it getting boned......

Good grief, this 2013 calling... Trust me, the OEM engineering and design teams are hardly sitting around the table trying to dream up parts that a DIY can't work on 10-15 years from now. They don't think about their own service teams, let alone a backyard guy. Special tools are a fact of life.

Sorry, these are not the days of rebuilding the small block in the 55 chevy or a flathead... I can buy every tool needed to service HEUI injectors or HPOPs today, but, I'd want to be able to do it more than once to get my money back. (I paid a shop $50 to press the balljoints out of a knuckle--why do I want to pay $140 for a decent master kit and the joy of fighting them all afternoon?)

Its only gonna get worse. If you want to be part of a part of the aftermarket in the future, start learning and tooling up now to understand the electronics, high pressure fuel systems, maybe become a plastic molder for all the interior parts, mfgr of specialized components, etc.

Hell, we already can't get many parts for an OBS because the parts mfgr already made them NLA (no longer available).

 

Same thing with engines themselves. 90 percent of people will say just let the shop do it and I myself never did a diesel b4 but been doing gas jobbers for 16 years and I always come back with, why have a shop do it when I can save atleast 3 grand in labor charge. I let the shops do the machining as I dont have all the equiptment or money to buy it all and I do the whole assembly job and installation and removal. They look intimidating from opening the hood on these newer vehicles but once you get the fancy crap off the top from there on its the same as the 70s and 80s with minor changes. I look at it as money well spent to have them do the machinery and magniflux and all that special stuff then its right and also money saved by me doing the rest so we both win but sooner or later they will do away with us all together and it will be all them.

 

The pump is a fairly simple design but you need the tools to do all your checks. I work in a mill and we do almost all of our own rebuilds on pumps of all sorts, but we also put in new parts in the pumps, we dont check/fix parts that come out. Plus if buy the upgraded ones, you get a better bearing and design and for what you would spend in parts and time you would way better off to just buy one.

 

i was going to take mine apart to do a 17* swap, i contacted joey at TE, for the money and the piece of mind i sent it to him. saved on my computer i have a E book on the hpop internals, i will post the link when i get home.

 

Can you post up that e book? Please and thank you...

 

It is not rocket science..it is just a hydraulic pump..
A seal goes the pump goes tolerances exceeded pressure lost.
Yes you can mill what you like but out of what there are specifics to the parts some are suppose to wear easier..then others etc..

Some have improved the design and worked others failed. If you want to get crafty...mod qn international cover on and get yourself a g3 style pump...while your at it use the international waste pump with a built in filter.. those are improvements

 

southmike. when you say g3 style pump. are you referring to a 6.0 pump?

 

no it is similar to swamps g3 big oil pump.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=diy%20hpop%20pump&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpowerstrokenation.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D92304&ei=--vRULy5COzh0wHnhoCQCg&usg=AFQjCNHEav_yYeY-6kfxScF889KfUWnYig"]old classified add but had some info


DIY Gen3 style HPOP ?'s -

i havent seen any that were 100% reliable btw

 

A small block chevy is in fact the same desighn in the 70s and 80s as todays v-8s once you get there fuel injection stuff off it and there million sensors and if you (mandkole) ever did mechanical work besides 2 hrs to change oil you would see that todays parts vs the earlier parts are made with a specific life span and the dealers and suppliers know what them life spans are. Why do you think when automobiles pass there warranty they start falling apart? Its so the manufacturing company and dealers can make money. They also make it more complex to rebuild and troubleshoot todays drivetrain so that in fact you either have to buy all there special tools of take it to them again there making money. Take for instance the superdutys front (junk) wheel bearings. They were desighned to make production faster and theres no way to take them out and service them so there blessed to go bad. Later 4x4s you repacked the bearings once a year and 6 dollars later for the 2 inner wheel seals and them bearings outlasted the truck and the truck the rears went into after it was junked. Again the aftermarket came out with there free spin kit exactly desighned as the 70s and 80s and those kits will outlast the truck at a price tag of $1800.00 for us to dish out. Why wasnt that desighn used from factory it outlasted the vehicles life before....because it makes the dealers and the aftermarket money. So before you start throwing stones get yourself a better spot to hide then behind glass walls. Get out there and do more then change oil and you will see. Im sure 90 percent of the guys on here that actually do wrenching on a daily basis would agree whats happening to modern day vehicles and parts and its exactly as I described.

 

Hey jbrixen, I was reading the thread, I was wondering if I could get you to send or else repost the hpop internals from your ebook. Doing a reseal on my HPOP, just want to make sure I get everything back in the same place it goes. You can email it if you would to dawnlane151@gmail.com
I have a 2000 f250 7.3l, with 334,000, and I'm basically redoing everything. If you know of a way to find corresponding circuits that would be great also. Had to get a new neutral safety switch connector because this one is just gone. The only problem all the wires on the new connector are black. B<t pretty much all the colors on the harness side are faded. I appreciate your help. Been working on this thing since I bought it in 2019. It's time for it to start run and move,. Thanks again.

 

Hey jbrixen, I was reading the thread, I was wondering if I could get you to send or else repost the hpop internals from your ebook. Doing a reseal on my HPOP, just want to make sure I get everything back in the same place it goes. You can email it if you would to dawnlane151@gmail.com
I have a 2000 f250 7.3l, with 334,000, and I'm basically redoing everything. If you know of a way to find corresponding circuits that would be great also. Had to get a new neutral safety switch connector because this one is just gone. The only problem all the wires on the new connector are black. B<t pretty much all the colors on the harness side are faded. I appreciate your help. Been working on this thing since I bought it in 2019. It's time for it to start run and move,. Thanks again.

You won't get an answer due to the age of this thread.
#1 - don't ever post your email. Netbots scan and steal eddresses so they can spam you.
#2 - You can buy the wiring schematics on ebay.
#3 - I can relate to all the black wires, but if you carefully cut and connect them one at a time according to the position on the old plug, you will do fine. Also, take a picture of the plug before you cut the wires.

 

I have one at the shop I'm going to pull apart to see what kind of voodoo is inside.

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