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what is your question?
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The TS style chip can be reburned by other tuners.
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f5 can only be burned by dp
you will have to purchase a ts chip to try anyone elses tunes
you will have to purchase a ts chip to try anyone elses tunes
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Well if you are not happy with the tuning that you get from DP then you have to buy another chip. If you get a TS style chip and want to try a different tuner then you can just send it to them for a reburn.
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F5 and F6 can only have DP tunes
TS style chip can have tunes from any tuner
TS style chip can have tunes from any tuner
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Ts can be reburned by Anyone except dp...lol
The biggest diff is 6 tunes vs 16..knob vs gizmo box.
Coolness factor and inovation tips to dp.
Cost, ease of use, variety of tuners..ts wins.
Most of the site sponsor tuners here will all make you happy.
Personaly I have gone with beans, I like dyno tweaked tunes,
Ease of contact, customer service, his performance numbers and his track record.
I don't have spare blocks laying around, or any spare money
Like some of the guys around here to try certain tuners programs,
But most seem to have updated toublesome tunes.
Call them all up,email etc, see who contacts you and mmake you feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Best advice you can get when trying to pick a tuner.
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Smartasz! LOL
I like the rotary knob and the option of changing tuners when you want. PHP has some nice features on the FU chip.
I like the rotary knob and the option of changing tuners when you want. PHP has some nice features on the FU chip.
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I want and like the knob. One thing that could be done, and I am actually surprised it never has been, is adding a numbered back plate to it. Not like you really need it but it would still be nice as an option. One thing I have found about push buttons from more years than I can to recall in IT and AV tech. They are not as durable. No two ways about it. Not saying a rotary knob can't be made very cheap; it can. Also not that a push button can not last a long time. But in general a rotary knob will be more durable and take more abuse and rough use. Especially if you add any liquid and debris to the mix. Now give me a rotary knob with led display and there you have it. These are TRUCKS after all things should be HD. The knobs tends to blend into the panel better as well.
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Actually there have been several places that have sold backing plates for the 6 position switches over the years. i'll look when I get home, but I think I have a truck sitting there with one of Bean's backing plates installed. Not sure if they still offer them or not.
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From what I have seen, Craig Moates was commissioned to design them for DP-Tuner. I also saw an article that ran 5 chips on a truck that was modded so there was an "apples to apples" comparison. Might not be the tuner's prefered package but it gave a better comparison of their abilities. From what I saw, they were kinda close to each other. There was some slight difference but that was that. No one tuner was head and shoulders above the others. So yes, with the obsoleted rotary dial, you have more choices but they are pretty much the same. If I were to go backwards to those switches, I would definitely want to see something more than a few HP difference. Choice is good but when the difference is slight, choice for the sake of choice isn't worth much to me.
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There is a whole lot more about tunes than just the peak HP or tq number. You can take two tunes and they drive completely different. Also one of those tunes have a very different profile ([email protected] BTS). You have shift points and line pressure, pedal %, ICP, Timing, How the power comes on, Hp and tq curves in the RPM band.
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