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Please help someone, I have dumped so much money in my truck and an only able to drive it in spurts. Background story is I was driving down highway and truck read reduced engine power and turned off. Found out my low pressure pump was bad and changed it. Looked in the old pump and some type of blue plastic ribbon looked to have clogged it. It still didn't run, not even with starter fluid. Mechanic says it's the hpfp so I change that and all lines. Also change every sensor imaginable dealing with fuel, temp, and crank. Now it runs when first cranked fully cold as many times as# you want you can turn off and back on, once I start driving it though and it warms up within a few minutes I'll drive and without warning it just turns off. Only way to start it again is with starter fluid and then I'm off to the races for a few minutes maybe even 25 minutes before it does back off and can only crank with starter fluid. When it runs, it's running great. I can let it get all the way cold again or wait till the next day and it will start right up no starter fluid needed and then everything happens all over. I need help really bad, I have been missing out on allot of work and draining so much money into it.
 

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When hpfp goes everything has to be changed injectors will get metal in them. The tank also needs to be dropped and cleaned. easy way to tell if metal in the system is to pull the control valve out the top of the hpfp if metal on the screen then everything has to be replaced or cleaned out. fuel is used to lube and cool the hpf system so the metal gets into every part of the system.

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Fuel pressure is very important to. if there is not enough low pressure fuel getting back to the injectors thru the oriface then the injectors won't fire. They use a fluid chamber filled with fuel to fire the injectors no fuel in the chamber the injector can not open.

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It runs great first start of the day and then literally when the engine warms at all it won't crank back up unless a shot of ether then runs great again till it turns back off. I feel like it's a sensor but I have changed all of them except the diesel temp sensor next to the fuel line near filter. The code pulling is reading low injector pressure but then will crank and run fine till it stops again. I'm just so lost with it. I thought maybe they didn't set the timing correct when installing the new hpfp but everywhere I read says it wouldn't start up and run good if that was the case. Of course it wasn't a Ford dealer but it was at heavy duty diesel truck repair shop. My friend owns it and I see so much work to thru there in good order so I didn't think nothing of it. I'm very mechanically inclined and went to school to be a mechanic but that was nearly 15 years ago. Also it was to be a gasoline mechanic. Using a snap on scan tool so am able to get whatever info needed. I'm just stumped on how it could start and run perfect and then just turn off driving 75mph and only start with ether sprayed and run perfect again till it redoes all the same stuff. Let it cool for some hours and crank right up no starter fluid. It's crazy. I cleaned the tank, bought new line kit from Oregon diesel, brand new motorcraft pump hpfp, and even a low pressure motorcraft pump.
 

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You likely have an injector(s) that are bypassing fuel out the returns when it warms up. IMO I would replace all the injectors . You will have to have the new IQA codes programmed to the PCM.

Was there metal in the old control valve in the old pump? You should have replace everything on the high side (rails, jumper lines, return lines in motor, injectors, fuel filter and HPFP). Flushed the flow side lines and cleaned the tank out as the debris gets everywhere. Ford sells a kit with everything you need. You are chasing your tail because you only did half the job IMO
 

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I did also buy a set of used injectors, I just didn't have them installed yet. I was reading that upon install I can't use the same hardware that came off the old ones because once removed the joints won't go flush together anymore and I will experience leakage, is that true?
 

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Yes there was debris in the old pump as well. Will not have changing the injectors originally caused me a new hpfp problem or do you think I should be good once I change? Any suggestions?
 

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No the lines have to be replaced to the injectors. I would pull the control valve and check if there is metal on the screen then you have lost the system again. Like was said these injectors need a specific amount of pressure on the low pressure side if it falls below that the injectors will not fire. the either may be allowing it to start and once running it is right at the limit to make the injectors work. Agreed you have to have the new Injectors numbers programmed into the computer I hope the used set came with the numbers.

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If the injectors didn’t come with Serial numbers don’t even bother. Pull the control valve again on the new pump and check for debris. If you find metal you have to replace EVERYTHING again. This time just buy the kit. It’s around 4,200$. Flush and clean the low side and pull the tank out and clean it out.

The injector IQA codes MUST be programmed using the IDS or a snap on based scan tool.
 

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I won't touch a 6.7l fuel system unless the customer is prepared to replace everything. If they want to short cut it they can take it some where else my reputation is not worth it. Even if they agree to the risk if it don't work they will bad mouth u about it. Diesel comes into the shop I tell the customer we do it right or we don't do it at all.

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Thanks everyone, I'm hoping I didn't waste nearly 6k and not getting everything right. Really hope I didn't ruin everything else. Waiting for the lines for injectors to come in. Will give you an update soon.
 

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What’s the update? I’ve had a truck that another shop did just a pump swap, and the truck ran rough and wouldn’t crank sometimes. After 2 weeks of trying to drive it they finally got ahold of me. VCV was clean of any debris. I had a used set of injectors from my personal truck we threw in there, and we flushed the old lines, sensors, sending unit in the tank and the tank itself. Pieced the truck back together just enough to drive it and make sure the problem was resolved. Don’t recommend reusing lines but the other shop had hurt the guys pocket book bad and left him to dry.. But definitely buy new hold down bolts for the injectors.. Hope you learned a valuable lesson and best of luck..
 

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So the verdict still isn't good. A few months later and the injectors have now been changed, the tank was dropped and cleaned and another low pressure fuel pump was installed again. New codes are popping up P0087,p0088,p228f. Dealing with fuel pressure but now I'm stumped and have tried everything. 8 months with no truck has been killer, I just had to sell my car hauler to pay bills.
 

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Were both fuel rails, injector jumper lines, fuel return lines and feed lines from pump to rails replaced??

Did you program the new IQA codes to the PCM?

If you live in the northeast I’d offer to fix it
 

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I purchased the line kit from Oregon diesel. Then purchased all the injector lines when I changed them
 

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What about the fuel rails? With a HPFP failure they must be changed. It also includes new sensors. The kit from ford includes everything you need. Would have been easier to buy everything from the dealer IMO
 

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I bought the Oregon diesel fuel line kit for 6.7l then I also changed the lines that connect to the injectors. Not sure if that kit included all parts you said.
 
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