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Calif. diesel pickup smogtest & inspection '08

7138 Views 40 Replies 15 Participants Last post by  ryaneverk2
In another thread regarding CCV mods, a member (Howie) brought up some concerned about upcoming new diesel engine smog testing and inspections.

The tests and inspections would be mandated by the State of California, on a biennial basis, retroactive to earlier model diesels (even those without DPFs when mfr'd).

The proposed testing and inspection specfically identifies light duty pickups owned by private individuals, not just agencies and fleets, not just medium duty trucks that are commercially used.

Vehicle registration renewals, as well as vehicle title transfers, would first require passing the BAR developed test and inspection, similar to what gasoline fueled vehicles are already subject to.

Under current law, diesel powered pickups under 14,000 gvwr have been exempt.

Under the new proposed law, Assembly Bill 1488, authored by State Assemblyman Tom Mendoza of California, this is about to change.

The bill has already passed in the Assembly after 3 rounds of revisions, and is currently (as of last Thursday, September 6, 2007) under committee hearing in the State Senate.

There are several more steps prior to this bill being codified into law, since it has yet to be voted on before the Senate. Therefore, now would be the time to offer whatever input or insight you might have to the Senator of your District.

It is improbable that your elected representative would have much sympathy for your desire to run a hot chip.

However, to the extent that passing or failing a future emissions test would present an unpredictable and sudden economic hardship on a contractor who requires his or her truck to make a living, cannot afford a new truck, and as a non-expert could not predict how the stock vehicle in stock trim would perform under testing that had not yet even been devised at the time the vehicle was engineered, manufactured, purchased, and placed into service... you may then have a case worth hearing.

What is currently proposed is a "study" test period for two years, from 2009 through 2011, with the goal of full implementation of the testing and inspection program in force by 2012.

Here are some links to give you some background information on AB1488 and it's progress this year through the California legislative system:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_1451-1500/ab_1488_cfa_20070709_102524_sen_comm.html

http://lgdb.com/bill/show/7744-California_2007_Air_Pollution__Smog_Check_Program_

http://www.legisweb.net/calm/model/Retrieve.asp?ref=urn:calm:2007:ab1488:doc


If you do have any input, the time to say it is now, to your State Senator, because it won't do any good to say it to the clerk at the counter of the DMV two years from now.

I'd have posted this information in the other thread, where this topic was first raised, but since the other thread was really about CCV mods, I didn't want to clutter that topic.

I personally am delighted that diesel emissions are being cleaned up. I always hated to be stuck driving behind diesel city buses spewing out black smoke... and to top it off only one or two passengers would be inside. A van or an airporter type vehicle would cost less to acquire, less to maintain, and less to fuel up for lightly travelled bus routes. Well, thankfully some cities are finally doing that, and it's great.

But not everyone lives in the city. And not everyone can afford a new truck every five years. And not everyone can stand to have big brother poking around under their hoods, in their cabs, and in their livelihoods.

While we all share the same air, city or country, and we all have to cooperate together to protect that air, we must also look realistically on exactly who is polluting that air most, and what is being done about that.

When big business can literally buy "pollution credits" as perfectly acceptable "mitigation factors" so that they can continue to pollute as before, that doesn't make our air any cleaner. That only makes state budgets swell larger. And those swelled budgets pay salaries to cubicle bound bureacrats that often lack a sense of balance that some broader life experience might have otherwise afforded them.

And it is balance that must be considered here, when creating regulations such as what AB1488 proposes. Perhaps, with the study period and phase in, that balance has been adequately acheived. What do you think about it?

Read up on it, using the handy and comprehensive links I provided above, and after reading, post up what you think (and what you'll do, if anything).
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The only thing I can give people about Cali being bad is the traffic, but I have a 50 mile one way commute on a major freeway in San Diego and I can still get to work in less than an hour. BTW 10 of the miles are on side streets. The only reason I would leave Cali is if I had to.
Makes me glad I can drive to work on a little two lane road at 30 mph and be there in less than 10 minutes. What sold me on this job was somebody complaining about rush hour with 4 cars sitting at a light. LOL. That was compared with living more than an hour away and commuting in on a freeway. Hmm. Whatever would you do with those extra 10 hours a week?
Probably make more beer, then drink it! :D

Actually the extra time is me time on the bike, and the scenery between San Diego and Winchester is pretty nice. I have done worse, used to live in Costa Mesa and worked in Agoura Hills, 80 miles one way thru downtown LA. Friday night coming home could be 4 hours. That sucked. But when I got home I was in Costa Mesa so.....

The only reason we are where we are is because of the location and the schools. The boy is in a charter home school program, we live in a huge brand new house in a really nice neighborhood near a 17,000 acre nature preserve between two lakes. Plus from my front door I am less than 10 miles from 20 wineries. Thats just the beginning. :D

California really isn't as bad as many people make it out to be, even with the politicians we have.
Probably make more beer, then drink it! :D

Actually the extra time is me time on the bike, and the scenery between San Diego and Winchester is pretty nice. I have done worse, used to live in Costa Mesa and worked in Agoura Hills, 80 miles one way thru downtown LA. Friday night coming home could be 4 hours. That sucked. But when I got home I was in Costa Mesa so.....

The only reason we are where we are is because of the location and the schools. The boy is in a charter home school program, we live in a huge brand new house in a really nice neighborhood near a 17,000 acre nature preserve between two lakes. Plus from my front door I am less than 10 miles from 20 wineries. Thats just the beginning. :D

California really isn't as bad as many people make it out to be, even with the politicians we have.
Well.................. the winters are a little nicer. I will be commuting a little farther next year. Add another 5 minutes to the commute and live on 45 acres surrounded by our horses, white tails etc. .........
I don't like horses. :poke:

When it comes down to it I just prefer living here. It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be, and most people ignore the good points. Where we are you do need to like the desert and heat tho. In a few years we are hoping to move closer to the coast.
You got to love this LA tree hugger using a PSD as cover. :hehe:

J/K.... Personally, I can't wait to be someone FROM Kali and I was born and raised here. But, I am from the hills, so I am a bit different I have been told.
Who you calling a treehugger?
:gethim:

NOT ME!!! I am just razzing ya.....
You're just jealous cause your from the hills. :swordfight:
Mikey, we need one of those smilies that vomit. And I need it now!:swordfight:

I moved to the Bay Area in '95 and have never liked it. Men do some stupid $hit for tail. The only good things that have come out of the bay area are my wife and kids.

And the only thing I get jealous over are truck mods.....:bow:

It's OK, I'm used to treehuggers, I come from Humboldt County. I think there is a tree hugger training camp somewhere up there. They were everywhere. We used to put the left tire in the ditch when they were hitch hiking and watch them scatter.:D
I had a friend who lived in Eureka. He took me to a bar up by Humbolt state one time. When we got there it was full of hippies, smelling hippies, then at like 5 the placed completely empty for like 30 minutes, and by 6 it was full of ********. Weird.

I don't like the bay personally, way too many people.
Well....................................., NO!
Whatchu talkin bout Willis?

Modesto has the worst air quality and smog in the US!
Whatchu talkin bout Willis?

Modesto has the worst air quality and smog in the US!
Only when the hills are on fire:(. Air quality is pretty good, now that the fire is out on the Ranch.;)
Only when the hills are on fire:(. Air quality is pretty good, now that the fire is out on the Ranch.;)

Fire is out? Good deal

How much damage
I had a friend who lived in Eureka. He took me to a bar up by Humbolt state one time. When we got there it was full of hippies, smelling hippies, then at like 5 the placed completely empty for like 30 minutes, and by 6 it was full of ********. Weird.

I don't like the bay personally, way too many people.
The hippies should have been leaving around 4:20 rather then 5.
You're probably right, it was 15 years ago so I probably got the times wrong.
I've lived in Cali as well as CO and all over TX.

Cali is a state w/ abundant resources, natural beauty, lots of public land, and trust me it has plenty of ********. (Only on this site would that be considered a GOOD thing!) I dare say more than TX. It was the Wild West after all not too long ago and when you leave the big cities that becomes abundantly clear.

It just has too many laws and taxes for my taste although the cops are 1000times more excepting of sportbike riding in CA than they are in TX. Oh how I miss Palomar Mountain.
Yeah most people don't realize how ******* Cali can be. All they see if LA, Hollywood, the Bay, and shows like The OC. Get outside the limits of these areas and its a whole different place.
Yeah, we're so worried about our pollution here...meanwhile China and every other country on the planet spews whatever they want into the air...all in the name of $$$$$$...
Yeah, we're so worried about our pollution here...meanwhile China and every other country on the planet spews whatever they want into the air...all in the name of $$$$$$...
Seems just a little hypocritical given the history of the industrial revolution here and in Europe.
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