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Might want this to be a sticky as a lot are starting to post about this issue after getting some miles racked up...

Talked to my buddy that's a diesel mechanic yesterday at ford and he did some research on the engine tick... Found some tsb on it but the bad news.... It's normal! In a nutshell it's the breaking in/wear of the engine internals and it's present in all diesels (7.0,6.0,etc) however the new trucks are so quiet you can actually hear the breaking in "tick"....

Here's the tsb he emailed to me

6.7L DIESEL—TICK/TAP NOISE AT IDLE TSB 10-19-2
FORD:
2011 F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550
ISSUE Dealers should not attempt to compare any
Some 6.7L diesel equipped vehicles may exhibit a customer vehicles exhibiting this noise with other
ticking noise at idle after an engine oil change. It is similar vehicles as the noise is different from vehicle
often referred to as Typewriter Noise because of its to vehicle and this may lead to the incorrect
similarity to the sound of random typing on a conclusion that the vehicle has a condition.
mechanical typewriter. Customers may report that Typewriter Noise is a normal operating
when near a building, wall or drive through window, characteristic of this diesel engine. This noise has
that this noise can be heard from inside the cab. no short or long term effects on the engine. Do not
attempt repairs to eliminate this noise. This noise is
ACTION characteristic of the 6.7L diesel engine and will
Follow the Service Information to inform the typically cease or diminish significantly within the oil
customer of the characteristic. change maintenance interval.
SERVICE INFORMATION Refer to vehicle Owner Guides and Maintenance
Guides for approved engine oil viscosities and
The relationship between the oil film, crankshaft usage information. Use of different oil viscosities will
journals, bearing inserts and engine cylinder block not eliminate this noise and is not recommended.
produces a sound that is heard as a ticking noise. Customers should be informed that these conditions
The overall noise reduction in engines produced do not affect engine durability and no repairs are
today makes this noise seem new when, in fact, it necessary.
was present in prior model year vehicles, but
masked by other noises in the past. Because the WARRANTY STATUS: Information Only - Not
6.7L diesel engine includes a number of design Warrantable
improvements to reduce diesel engine noise,
Typewriter Noise can be more noticeable than on
previous products. Typewriter Noise is not
detrimental to engine function or durability. Other
manufacturers of diesel engines have reported the
presence of this condition for a number of years.
Build tolerance stack-up from engine to engine
contributes to perceived differences in noise
intensity. When engine temperatures reach 150 °F
(65 °C) or higher, (from engine idle up to
approximately 1700 RPM’s), this noise can typically
be heard at the front wheel well and is often
isolated to the transmission bell housing or oil pan
area.
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Do you have the english version? It looks like all the sentences got jumbled up. If not, Ford might need to look for a new tech writer.
 
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Maybe im wrong here, but wouldnt this be good news ? Its a normal sound instead of a disaster happening or something. I would be happy if my brand new 2011 truck that was tapping was just being normal instead of setting up for catastrophic failure.
 

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Yes ita English lol I will repost off a computer here in a few I'm sorry I just pasted off my phone and it didn't transfer bold stuff and ran it all together...

An yes you have a point but it kinda sucks there's a tick and you got nothing can do about it and have to explain to everyone why your brand new 60k truck makes weird noises... I'd say knowing some guys on the forums it will even be enough for them to get rid of their truck because of it... It's annoying but I love my truck! Lol
 

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Maybe im wrong here, but wouldnt this be good news ? Its a normal sound instead of a disaster happening or something. I would be happy if my brand new 2011 truck that was tapping was just being normal instead of setting up for catastrophic failure.
I haven't noticed it too often with my truck since I started using Valvoline full synthetic. Even though something isn't wrong, it is anoying as hell.
 

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I can understand it being annoying, im guessing it would sound about the same as my old F150 lifter tapping. But i would be happy that i wont be parking my truck at a dealership for a new motor.

Im sure someone will figure out a way to get rid of it.
 

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I can understand it being annoying, im guessing it would sound about the same as my old F150 lifter tapping. But i would be happy that i wont be parking my truck at a dealership for a new motor.

Im sure someone will figure out a way to get rid of it.
turn up the radio lol
 

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Might want this to be a sticky as a lot are starting to post about this issue after getting some miles racked up...

Talked to my buddy that's a diesel mechanic yesterday at ford and he did some research on the engine tick... Found some tsb on it but the bad news.... It's normal! In a nutshell it's the breaking in/wear of the engine internals and it's present in all diesels (7.0,6.0,etc) however the new trucks are so quiet you can actually hear the breaking in "tick"....
you should get your buddy to recheck his tsb's, perhaps he would like to add the one where ford helped to address the conern which is the hp fuel pump causing the tic, its lessend with a calibration update. However it is still normal to hear noise on an engine.

The tsb your showing is and old tsb, which has merit with the fact moving parts can make noise, but leaves out important information.

bottom line is i would not get my panties in a bunch nor have a heading of " BAD NEWS " when your incorrect if your saying ford had done nothing to address possible noise concerns.
 

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you should get your buddy to recheck his tsb's, perhaps he would like to add the one where ford helped to address the conern which is the hp fuel pump causing the tic, its lessend with a calibration update. However it is still normal to hear noise on an engine.

The tsb your showing is and old tsb, which has merit with the fact moving parts can make noise, but leaves out important information.

bottom line is i would not get my panties in a bunch nor have a heading of " BAD NEWS " when your incorrect if your saying ford had done nothing to address posible noise concerns.
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you should get your buddy to recheck his tsb's, perhaps he would like to add the one where ford helped to address the conern which is the hp fuel pump causing the tic, its lessend with a calibration update. However it is still normal to hear noise on an engine.

The tsb your showing is and old tsb, which has merit with the fact moving parts can make noise, but leaves out important information.

bottom line is i would not get my panties in a bunch nor have a heading of " BAD NEWS " when your incorrect if your saying ford had done nothing to address possible noise concerns.
WOW dude way to be a smartass dick! Pretty sure you coulda said the same thing without the dbag tone don't ya think?!? Maybe even be as kind to supply the updated tsb.... Thx neways I'll see if I can get him to find the updated tsb. Since you where so kind to point out there was one.... Awful nice of him to go take time out of his night after work at home looking that up for me in the first place...
 

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No kidding. Thanks for the post OP
 

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WOW dude way to be a smartass dick! Pretty sure you coulda said the same thing without the dbag tone don't ya think?!? Maybe even be as kind to supply the updated tsb.... Thx neways I'll see if I can get him to find the updated tsb. Since you where so kind to point out there was one.... Awful nice of him to go take time out of his night after work at home looking that up for me in the first place...
Honestly you posted it with a heading of " BAD NEWS" notice how you had bad news in capital letters? So when you do it that way it pretty much means your trying to start ####, you also stated ford is doing nothing. So pardon me if i reply in a similar manner letting you know that your providing miss information.

Sorry but i will not provide you with the tsb you ask for as there is a confidentiality agreement associated with that information. If your buddy is indeed a diesel tech he should already know the tsb i speak of. Btw he would be signing the same agreement as i to access the information that you seek.

On a side note: with the modifications you have to your truck i would be less concerned about a tic and more so with a boom, high pitch squeel from over spinging the turbo, or the dusting of the engine due to the #### intake. Btw i'm not being an ass, but the truth does sometimes hurt. Riddle me this, how are you monitoring egt's?
 

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Who are you sonic? If I paid 65k for a brand new truck, it would upset me that I would have to listen to a tic;but I'm anal about these things. I would think all you had to do was explain that there is an updated tsb.

Do you actually drive a psd? Just wondering.

"riddle me this"... This is NOT being a prick?
 

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He has a 6.4 and doesn't know what he is talking about... And there's no way to prove who the tech is that gave me the tsb since I'm not saying his name I only say my buddy the diesel tech, which he is, how else would I have gotten the tsb to post UNLIKE YOU!!! and I will get him to send me the updated tsb to repost since you were oh so kind to inform all us that actually drive a 6.7 and have the annoying tick that is BAD NEWS that we just have to deal with because there is no fix.... Even what you said as a "fix" just quitens it, not eliminate!
 

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Sonic blue must be georgec's alias... Hahaha
 

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Who are you sonic? If I paid 65k for a brand new truck, it would upset me that I would have to listen to a tic;but I'm anal about these things. I would think all you had to do was explain that there is an updated tsb.

Do you actually drive a psd? Just wondering.

"riddle me this"... This is NOT being a prick?
I will answer you in point form:

- Some who clearly knows more the the op and his tech buddy put together.

- The tic been addressed, the tsb is just saying that normal noises are just that normal. However if there is a reason for concern then it has to be addressed. For example if you accelerate hard and hear a whoosh type noise from the engine its probably the turbo, now let say you stomp on it hard and hear a big screetching/rattle then that would have to be addressed.

- Psd? so its that what the cool kids say now adays? Sounds like your trying to match the dodge guy's " cummings "

To answer you question, yes i do.

- actually i was being serious, there is no egt sensor to read egt's like on a 6.4, so unless he would like to pay $25g for a new engine its a relavant question. I'm pretty sure a melted and or cracked piston will tick more then what the tsb suggests is in the " normal " range.
 

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He has a 6.4 and doesn't know what he is talking about... And there's no way to prove who the tech is that gave me the tsb since I'm not saying his name I only say my buddy the diesel tech, which he is, how else would I have gotten the tsb to post UNLIKE YOU!!! and I will get him to send me the updated tsb to repost since you were oh so kind to inform all us that actually drive a 6.7 and have the annoying tick that is BAD NEWS that we just have to deal with because there is no fix.... Even what you said as a "fix" just quitens it, not eliminate!
I will respond in point form:

- I don't have a 6.4.

- I clearly know what i am talking about.

- I'm not trying to play hero by posting tsb's. The tsb is only relevant if you actually have that concern in the first place.

Since you think i know nothing i will summerize why your getting your panties in a bunch for nothing.

The tic is the hp fuel pump switching between control modes (so yes not a big deal at all) So the calibration just softens the switch over. For ####s and giggles ask your buddy what im talking about, im sure he can explain it to you.......... or can he :evil
 

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I will respond in point form:

-your still being a prick

-i never questioned your knowledge

-"psd" IS how the cool kids say it; tell your friends.
 
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