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even on the 80 tow setting,think my pump is weak,or something else,tired of the ses light,would like to live ses free....
allways throwing 1211 code
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after posting ,i realized i should also say,the few times i have read codes after getting the ses light it has allways been 1211,i dont have a reeader and am assumeing that it is throwing the 1211 code
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My truck does that also doesn't really bother me but if you don't want to see if have Jody change the tunes or get some big oil.
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If the P1211 code all the time like under normal driving, and not hard into then you probably need a new IPR
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I'd check to see if the IPR is leaking, then call up Joey and order a Terminator II with that fancy R-IPR.
If the SES light comes on after 30+ seconds of heavey throttle then the tunes are asking for more oil than the pump can supply. If you are setting a P1211 code under daily driven type conditions then you probably have an issue like crap in the IPR, IPR orings, etc.
If the SES light comes on after 30+ seconds of heavey throttle then the tunes are asking for more oil than the pump can supply. If you are setting a P1211 code under daily driven type conditions then you probably have an issue like crap in the IPR, IPR orings, etc.
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Can you ever feel the truck surge in power with a very crisp "Timing" sound? This is usually a sign of a stuck IPR coming "unstuck" and the ICP jumping up quickly advancing your effective timing, giving the engine a very raspy sound until the IPR duty cycle is gotten back in check.
I had a sticky IPR and although it never set the SES, I had the "Over/Under" ICP code everytime until I took it out and cleaned it.
There is a very good chance you might have ICP higher than desired if you've got a sticky IPR. If the truck is setting the code during say, steady rpm, cruising situations, like rolling down the interstate, then I'd look into the IPR seriously.
1211 is just as easily set by high ICP as low. It's an "out-of-bounds" error. It can be from either direction, although usually from the lower of the two.
Good Luck.
I had a sticky IPR and although it never set the SES, I had the "Over/Under" ICP code everytime until I took it out and cleaned it.
There is a very good chance you might have ICP higher than desired if you've got a sticky IPR. If the truck is setting the code during say, steady rpm, cruising situations, like rolling down the interstate, then I'd look into the IPR seriously.
1211 is just as easily set by high ICP as low. It's an "out-of-bounds" error. It can be from either direction, although usually from the lower of the two.
Good Luck.
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it happens when i am going say 20 mph and jump on it,or if im doing 55 mph and slam it to the floor,not every time but under those cicumstances,and allways when im towing i get it. the ipr is new about 10-15 thousand miles ageo...
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ok my thoughts as well,so is there a single pump that put out more pressure than the oem one.you know a hotter pump,or is the next step up big oil,was looking for an option to the cost of duel pumps......
Terminator will be releasing the cardiac arrest soon. (hopefully 
oke: ) which will be less cost than the dual setup and provide more oil than stock.
Joey could answer how much more than stock, but I believe it is targeted to support up to stage 2 injectors.
You can also ebay and scavenge for another used pump, and send TE both of yours. I hear if you bribe Joey with candy, he'll do it that way and make you a deal.
oke: ) which will be less cost than the dual setup and provide more oil than stock.Joey could answer how much more than stock, but I believe it is targeted to support up to stage 2 injectors.
You can also ebay and scavenge for another used pump, and send TE both of yours. I hear if you bribe Joey with candy, he'll do it that way and make you a deal.
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Maybe if Joey Builds it himself he can save himself the constant ridicule of it's not being "Big Oil" as was the case 24-7 with the 20* pump that I and many others ran for so long with great success.
There is no place for medium oil on a powerstroke........well unless Joey himself is the one making the money selling it I guess.
It's funny how things like that seem to work out sometimes. :lame:
There is no place for medium oil on a powerstroke........well unless Joey himself is the one making the money selling it I guess.
It's funny how things like that seem to work out sometimes. :lame:
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Charles, can you explain why the 20* pump was called a 20* pump? There are modifications done internally, but in the wrong place.
The CA will have some new internals, not just modified. Medium Oil's goal is to increase flow slightly and stop the SES light.
FWIW, I agree that Big Oil is the best alternative.
The CA will have some new internals, not just modified. Medium Oil's goal is to increase flow slightly and stop the SES light.
FWIW, I agree that Big Oil is the best alternative.
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Just calling a spade a spade. It used to be that a place for "Medium Oil" didn't exist. But now apparently it does...
That coincides with your soon-to-be release of just such a product. When Swamps with the 20* or Bob with his Pulse, were selling a product producing the same results (enough oil to fully support a Stage II/Hybrid injector) it was deemed useless. As if there was no need for any more oil if not "Big Oil". Now apparently a window for "Medium Oil" has presented itself as a valid and worthwhile venture. Could it be that at least on some level, your running opinion is based upon what will sell the most Terminator products?
Or is this just a foolish mis-observation on my part?
If so, then I appologize.
That coincides with your soon-to-be release of just such a product. When Swamps with the 20* or Bob with his Pulse, were selling a product producing the same results (enough oil to fully support a Stage II/Hybrid injector) it was deemed useless. As if there was no need for any more oil if not "Big Oil". Now apparently a window for "Medium Oil" has presented itself as a valid and worthwhile venture. Could it be that at least on some level, your running opinion is based upon what will sell the most Terminator products?
Or is this just a foolish mis-observation on my part?
If so, then I appologize.
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well my thoughts are this.i have pmrs and will continue to run the stock sticks,but want to get all i can out of them,so with oil tunes and a turbo,wouldnt medium oil and big oil be the same affect on my truck ??? so if im correct medium oil would fit the bill,at less cost makeing it more apealing to me and i suspect others who want oil but arnt total power freaks.now if im wrond in my assumptions i need to know,cause little in life pisses me off more than to spend,on ####ty upgrages.........
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:hehe: :hehe:
You say your going to get oil and a turbo but that's it stock injectors are staying
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Once a horsepower junkie, always a horsepower junkieThat is unless you have more will power than I.
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Charles, no problem. Right now, NOBODY offers a Medium Oil system. That is the only reason I'm working on it. To be totally honest, the CA is more work for me then building a TE kit. I am the first to discourage people away from Medium Oil, because they will outgrow it.
racehauler nailed it!
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HEY... I want it... Any chance it will be ready before the week of the 8th... when she goes under the knife?
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