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I currently have the spartan tuner with the 310 tune but have recently saw that h and s tuner that has the shift on the fly capability which interests me, i like that spartan altho the custumer service is kinds lacks there and they are hard to get in touch with, just wondering if anyone out there has tryed them both and what ppl think of the hs tuner?
Moderator Edit: Here is a quick rundown of each tuner.
Spartan- Price $1249 For basic tuner. Additional $400 for the 310 and 275 race tunes. Basic package includes all of spartans tunes, DPF on 40,75,125,150 hp tunes, DPF delete tunes 40,75,125,150,175,210,210 heavy tow, and 250 race tune. The same tuning is on the fastest 6.4 today in a reg cab @ [email protected], and dyno's consistantly around 575 hp with the 310 tune. Features one of the best dash units for displaying guages, tuning info ect, has data logging capabilities, as well as a GPS add on option. Great tuning, engine and transmission, great set of guages, and data logging. Most expensive out of the group. It has also come to my attention that you can purchase tunes for the Dash daq through KEM performance, not sure all of the list of tunes available, but i do know that there is a 345 tune that was just released for 300 dollars
SCT livewire- Price basic live wire can be picked up for as little as $650, with Innovative custom tuning around $950. Basic tuning, is ok, can be done tuning with DPF on or off. Best when coupled with custom tunes by Eric from Innovativediesel. Offers 4 tunes. Including a tow tune, extreme street, and extreme race, The extreme race has put down over 600 hp on just a tuner, and has track times of high 12's with just a tuner, on crew cab pick ups. Great engine and transmission tuning, The sct does offer guages as part of the display, the livewire is a bit large and the gauges arent the best, but they do work. SCT livewire is best coupled with analog gauges, and Erics custom tuning, another benifit is having a wide veriety of tuners to choose from, such as Elite diesel, Rivercity diesel, Beans diesel performance, Dp-tuner, Gearhead automotive, and others im sure im forgetting. Great tuning capabilities, and the cheapest of the bunch, downfall is the guages, and size of the livewire.
DPF-ON tuning:
Spartan offers tuning up to 150 hp, some noteable mileage gains can be seen, 1 mpg is probably the most that you will see while maintaining the dpf on your truck.
SCT offers dpf on tuning as well. 120 hp is the most that sct offers with the dpf on, about the same mileage gains will be seen as the spartan tuning.
Banks, they offer the IQ, with or without banks tuning, banks only offers DPF-on tuning. 95 hp gains can be expected, banks also offers thier tuning with a shift on the fly, Havent actually heard of anyone running it, so anyone with feed back please chime in.
Moderator Edit: Here is a quick rundown of each tuner.
Spartan- Price $1249 For basic tuner. Additional $400 for the 310 and 275 race tunes. Basic package includes all of spartans tunes, DPF on 40,75,125,150 hp tunes, DPF delete tunes 40,75,125,150,175,210,210 heavy tow, and 250 race tune. The same tuning is on the fastest 6.4 today in a reg cab @ [email protected], and dyno's consistantly around 575 hp with the 310 tune. Features one of the best dash units for displaying guages, tuning info ect, has data logging capabilities, as well as a GPS add on option. Great tuning, engine and transmission, great set of guages, and data logging. Most expensive out of the group. It has also come to my attention that you can purchase tunes for the Dash daq through KEM performance, not sure all of the list of tunes available, but i do know that there is a 345 tune that was just released for 300 dollars
SCT livewire- Price basic live wire can be picked up for as little as $650, with Innovative custom tuning around $950. Basic tuning, is ok, can be done tuning with DPF on or off. Best when coupled with custom tunes by Eric from Innovativediesel. Offers 4 tunes. Including a tow tune, extreme street, and extreme race, The extreme race has put down over 600 hp on just a tuner, and has track times of high 12's with just a tuner, on crew cab pick ups. Great engine and transmission tuning, The sct does offer guages as part of the display, the livewire is a bit large and the gauges arent the best, but they do work. SCT livewire is best coupled with analog gauges, and Erics custom tuning, another benifit is having a wide veriety of tuners to choose from, such as Elite diesel, Rivercity diesel, Beans diesel performance, Dp-tuner, Gearhead automotive, and others im sure im forgetting. Great tuning capabilities, and the cheapest of the bunch, downfall is the guages, and size of the livewire.
Another great option is the TSX TouchScreen.
The TSX update will be released in a few days. It has some extra features like a better gauge display, end user display options, and most importantly(to me) the ability for me to write my custom tunes to the wireless dongle. Currently, the programs are written to the monitor and transferred wirelessly to the dongle the first time you use the program. My tunes are too big for the memory in the monitor, so I need to write them directly to the dongle. My guess is two weeks and we'll be ready to go with the TSX and custom tuning.
H&S Performance- Price 1299, Includes 4 tunes, Only tuner that provides shift on the fly tuning, Digital guages and size of the unit are good, and easy to use. Power is decent, Highest setting dyno's around 515Hp, not alot of track times from this tuner. Decent price for what you get, good guages, downfall is you cant get as high of HP tunes as others.The TSX is the Touchscreen. Is has full monitoring and datalogging capabilities.
The price is $849 for the TouchScreen. The IDP custom tuning package is $399 additional.
SCT Diesel Part # SCT-TSX - SCT Touch Screen Xtreme 8900 - Diesel Performance Parts
DPF-ON tuning:
Spartan offers tuning up to 150 hp, some noteable mileage gains can be seen, 1 mpg is probably the most that you will see while maintaining the dpf on your truck.
SCT offers dpf on tuning as well. 120 hp is the most that sct offers with the dpf on, about the same mileage gains will be seen as the spartan tuning.
Banks, they offer the IQ, with or without banks tuning, banks only offers DPF-on tuning. 95 hp gains can be expected, banks also offers thier tuning with a shift on the fly, Havent actually heard of anyone running it, so anyone with feed back please chime in.