Sorry, I know this is such a dead horse to beat into the ground.
Need to get my 06 done up this winter and going with a local guy here in Madison WI.
Here's the email traffic back and forth. I really want to know your opinion on what I should do and if this seems correct. I'm a little worried putting Ford parts back in my truck and just don't know about any other reputable dealers around the area.
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Thank you for contacting us regarding the repair of your truck.
Our standard 6.0L head gasket replacement would include re-surfacing, magnafluxing, and pressure testing of your cylinder heads. It would also include ARP head studs, Ford updated head gaskets, Ford updated oil cooler, new high pressure oil rail stand pipes, exhaust manifold gaskets, exhaust manifold bolts, lower rocker box gaskets, and intake manifold gaskets. With required labor added to the parts and services above, the estimated total would be $4200. If we were to add an full EGR delete kit to the estimate, that would be an additional $200 in parts costs but, no additional labor. An SCT X4 programmer would come with 3 custom programs for your truck, including a towing program for $449. Normally, you will see better fuel economy while running a slightly larger program than a standard towing or economy tune. This programmer would allow you to experiment with the different options to see what worked best for your driving style, etc. We realize that the total cost is more than your projected budget for the repair work but, we do strive to make our estimates very comprehensive to avoid a great deal of add on costs after the job has begun.
Bulletproof Diesel makes very nice products but, they do come at a premium price, unfortunately. By adding a coolant filter kit for $185 to the updated Ford oil cooler, we haven't had any repeat failures to the coolers. This is a more economical option over the Bulletproof air cooled unit at nearly $1600. If you chose to go with a Bulletproof EGR cooler as well, that would be an additional $150 over the EGR delete option.
**Any other required parts, shipping charges, shop supplies, fluids, and sales tax would be additional.
I do need to mention that there is a possibility that the cylinder heads may require additional machine work, such as valve guides, seats, valves, etc. The machine shop that we use is able to fix any of these problems in house for an extra charge, if the need arises.
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I was kind of in a rush the other day when explaining the work to the lady who answered the phone.
I want to elevate all of the known problems with 6.0’s. My truck just got off of an extended warranty with Ford and we moved from Washington State to Wisconsin. The EGR has been replaced in the last year, the oil cooler was replaced at the beginning of the month, bed plate, and rear main. Even with this I’m still seeing problems towing my jet boat around and it really does not have the power that it should only towing a 5k boat. I know the turbo vanes are probably going to be due for a cleaning since I continually get the over boost code after driving through town for awhile then getting on the high way with a heavy pull.
I was really just interested in the head studs but I could see the need for the head and cylinder work since you would be in there already. I’m not 100% on the updated Ford parts since I have had such horrible luck on the previous parts that Ford has installed. But I’m willing to go with them if they are serious improvement on what was originally put in (hopefully the oil cooler they recently installed was the updated one). The only thing I was considering was the oil cooler with the cold weather kit for the winters around here. I definitely want to do a full EGR delete kit but have been reading that it is sometimes not a cure all to the problem? I probably would rather go with the delete over the bullet proof filter kit just because it’s more filters to replace down the road and I have heard that I still need to be doing coolant exchanges every year.
The programmer is a must for me but I might do some shopping around and just have it for you to install when I drop the truck off since I’m interested in some custom tunes.
I can flex my budget a little since I’m looking at getting this taken care of during the winter when I do not use my truck as much. I can probably look at scheduling something around the December time frame depending on your availability?
My main question is going to be, what do I need to really do to keep this truck out of the shop for the next 100k? If Bulletproof parts are the answer then that is the case, if Ford updated parts then that’s what we will go with.
newer EGR/Oil cooler
7 inch lift on 37"