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It sounds like an ill-conceived operation, with horrible results... by the ATF higher ups.

Never have so many politicians, screwed so many Americans...just to make one black person lose his job.
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It sounds like an ill-conceived operation, with horrible results... by the ATF higher ups.
But wait, isn't it just more gov't trying to solve a problem? Didn't the gov't have the people in mind when they did this? They were going to use this plan to take down the cartels?

Seeing how this is a complete cluster **** situation You still want the gov't in control of your health care? This isn't a facetious question, but how many times do you need to see stories like this before you question what the gov't does "In your best interests"?

It comes down to more than just higher taxes on why people such as myself don't want the gov't in control of my health care. I honestly don't think they can run it with an efficiency. I work with gov't identities everyday in my business and I know just the hoops I have to jump through to do the simplest things such as pull a building permit.

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But wait, isn't it just more gov't trying to solve a problem? Didn't the gov't have the people in mind when they did this? They were going to use this plan to take down the cartels?

Seeing how this is a complete cluster **** situation You still want the gov't in control of your health care? This isn't a facetious question, but how many times do you need to see stories like this before you question what the gov't does "In your best interests"?

It comes down to more than just higher taxes on why people such as myself don't want the gov't in control of my health care. I honestly don't think they can run it with an efficiency. I work with gov't identities everyday in my business and I know just the hoops I have to jump through to do the simplest things such as pull a building permit.
There will always be screwups, by any entity/industry/agency/country/government.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.

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There will always be screwups, by any entity/industry/agency/country/government.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.
Ah, but nay....Ricky.......isn't it most always ONE PERSON who screwed up?......How can you blame the entire entity for the actions of one person?

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Ah, but nay....Ricky.......isn't it most always ONE PERSON who screwed up?......How can you blame the entire entity for the actions of one person?
Now you're getting it.

There is almost always one person who makes the final decision.

Obviously, the ATF agent in the video and the others who were also against it can't be held accountable...can they?

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Now you're getting it.

There is almost always one person who makes the final decision.

Obviously, the ATF agent in the video and the others who were also against it can't be held accountable...can they?
Did they not swear to uphold the law? If they observe an illegal activity are they not bound by that oath to act?

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Now you're getting it.

There is almost always one person who makes the final decision.

Obviously, the ATF agent in the video and the others who were also against it can't be held accountable...can they?
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There will always be screwups, by any entity/industry/agency/country/government.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.
All right Reverend, if you're gonna preach....get your sermon straight...... Those last two kinda contradict one another.....

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Did they not swear to uphold the law? If they observe an illegal activity are they not bound by that oath to act?
Now you're just playing dumb.

What's the difference between this and undercover narcs that handle/sell drugs?

Or cops that speed, in trying to get lawbreakers?

Or.....

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All right Reverend, if you're gonna preach....get your sermon straight...... Those last two kinda contradict one another.....
How do they contradict each other?

I have yet to see an entity/industry/agency/country/government...not be made up of a number of human beings.

Are you and Ron drinking the same water, that temporarily takes away common sense?

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