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How liberals think.....

Michael Moore is at it again. This guy needs his a$$ kicked.


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"They're sitting on the money, they're using it for their own -- they're putting it someplace else with no interest in helping you with your life, with that money. We've allowed them to take that. That's not theirs, that's a national resource, that's ours. We all have this -- we all benefit from this or we all suffer as a result of not having it," Michael Moore told Laura Flanders of GRITtv.

"I think we need to go back to taxing these people at the proper rates. They need to -- we need to see these jobs as something we some, that we collectively own as Americans and you can't just steal our jobs and take them someplace else," Moore concluded.
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How much money is his fat a$$ sitting on that "could be creating jobs" We "allowed" him to take it after all. What a SCHMUCK.

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How much money is his fat a$$ sitting on that "could be creating jobs" We "allowed" him to take it after all. What a SCHMUCK.
His mom feed him lead paint chip cookies as a kid, what do you expect?

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How much money is his fat a$$ sitting on that "could be creating jobs" We "allowed" him to take it after all. What a SCHMUCK.
About 51 million dollars

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I wonder what the All Might Gandy will say.....

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I wonder what the All Might Gandy will say.....
I think that Micheal Moore is actually to the left of Rick. I could be wrong, we will have to see his response.

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I think that Micheal Moore is actually to the left of Rick. I could be wrong, we will have to see his response.
But money says that he will defend him in some way, just because we dislike him.

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I wouldnt mind stringing him up by his thumbs (Michael Moore), that guy is just plain evil and whats wrong with america (the land of entitlements) and social justice, IMO!!!!

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Re: How liberlas think.....

Although I can barely stand to look at Moore and he's usually a far-left wacko, once in a while he comes up with some good observations (his movie "Sicko," had a lot of eye opening revelations).

This isn't one of them however.

His own net worth is estimated between 25-50 million, so when he talks about "taxing these people at the proper rates" ....he's talking about himself too.

He is correct though, that only a small percentage of Americans hold most of the wealth.

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First, though, some definitions. Generally speaking, wealth is the value of everything a person or family owns, minus any debts.

In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.7%.
As noted in the first paragraph, "wealth" isn't solely "income."

So when it is discussed that the top tier has their "income" tax increased by 4%, that doesn't mean their "wealth" is materially affected.

In my link, I found this very interesting.

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One final general point before turning to the specifics. People who have looked at this document in the past often asked whether progressive taxation reduces some of the income inequality that exists before taxes are paid. The answer: not by much, if we count all of the taxes that people pay, from sales taxes to property taxes to payroll taxes (in other words, not just income taxes). And the top 1% of income earners, who average over $1 million a year, actually pay a smaller percentage of their incomes to taxes than the 9% just below them. These findings are discussed in detail near the end of this document.

Although I do not believe in "punishing" the wealthy (as Moore seems to indicate), I do believe however in a progressive tax system.

After all, what's so bad about giving a little more back to the country that allowed you the ability to become so wealthy in the first place?

And even if government spending decreased significantly, if the amount the top 1% pays in taxes were decreased (as those who believe in "tinkle on" economics want).....the vast middle would have to have theirs increased.

As far as Moores' contention that the money the top 1% has is a "national resource".....he's waaaay out in left field on that one.

It's their money...not the United States money.

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But money says that he will defend him in some way, just because we dislike him.
Just about everyone, regardless of how naive or wacky they are...can have valid points.

I'm sure at some point......even you will come up with something valid.

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