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Who wants to buy me a beer?

Just something from the internet, but I thought it was entertaining.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this.
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20." Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.
So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings)
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man.
He pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a Dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, this is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier..

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Great Post and so true!

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In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier..
This part is already happening and a lot of them are starting businesses while they are drinking "over there".

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I got this email from my Uncle about three months ago or better. I thought this was the best analogy anyone could put together to describe such a fubarred system. This is true in every essence. Thanks for posting it up.
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I have some friends that are business owners such as myself. We are all in about the same spot for incomes. We all do side things to make some extra money. My thing is plowing snow since I already own the equipment from my construction companies. If I get a tax hike, I'm shutting that end of my business down. I don't need the money from the snow end of my business, it unsually goes to wants not needs. The hours suck, I'm married to my town for 4-5 months and can't go and do things that I want, because it might snow. If the gov't decides to come after my extra spending money, I just will quite doing it. So the extra $5k that they were going to get by raising my tax rate on that portion of my income will be a net loss of about $20k because I will no longer plow and make the income to tax. My friends are in the same boat and mindset as I am. So keep taxing away and then find yourself with less money then before you tried a bigger percentage. I'm at a point in my life where I really don't care, if I lose that portion of income, it just means that I get to see my wife and kid more.

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Yep. "Tax the rich". I get so tired of hearing it. Start taxing them. I hope they pack up thier businesses and take them to Mexico or overseas. Then, maybe when this country is in an even bigger mess that it is now, some of our liberal leaders will start to learn.

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40% of Americans don't pay taxes, but want to use the system like everyone else (schools, roads, defense). I say if you don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote.

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40% of Americans don't pay taxes, but want to use the system like everyone else (schools, roads, defense). I say if you don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote.
Sure they do...just not income....

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Not to mention taxes built into every little thing purchased.

Fact is there are just too many taxes across the board. To cover every one of these + what is spent over and able what is taken in will require EVERYONE to be taxed @ over 50% of all income.

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Sure they do...just not income....

Fuel
Sales
Property
Social Security
Medi-x
FCC
911
Ad valorem
Energy

Not to mention taxes built into every little thing purchased.

Fact is there are just too many taxes across the board. To cover every one of these + what is spent over and able what is taken in will require EVERYONE to be taxed @ over 50% of all income.
Very true. Sorry, I was speaking of income, but you are right. Everyone who buys anything is paying some sort of tax.

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