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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

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Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."
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So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.

WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.

WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.
Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
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How did they come to that conclusion from this (taken from the link in the WND article).


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Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.

If this doesn't prove that WND flat out lies....I don't know what does.



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And yet, I'll bet the usual suspects will jump on it........... because that is what they want to believe.


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World Net Daily

How did they come to that conclusion from this (taken from the link in the WND article).


Hawaii Newspaper Interview (click here)





If this doesn't prove that WND flat out lies....I don't know what does.



"Birthers" .....BwaaaHaaaaHaaaa......



And yet, I'll bet the usual suspects will jump on it........... because that is what they want to believe.


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All he has to do is produce it. I'm not saying that he was not born there. I think he probably was. But he claimed to be a foreign student and I don't think he wants conflicting documents out. His sealed college records will find their way out eventually. I just think he was cheap going to college.


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World Net Daily is a joke..... that's never funny.

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All he has to do is produce it.
He did. The so-called "birthers" ignored it, and to this day claim that he still hasn't "produced it" to the public.

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I'm not saying that he was not born there. I think he probably was. But he claimed to be a foreign student and I don't think he wants conflicting documents out.
That was yet again another debunked WND spawned lie. Obama never claimed to be a foreign student. WND made up that story.

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His sealed college records will find their way out eventually. I just think he was cheap going to college.
His college records aren't exactly "sealed". It was already proven through his college records that Obama did not attend as a "foreign" student with financial aid only available through foreign students.

Again, it was another WND lie. It's really sad what misinformation can do, and how people are so quick to believe it.

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Does anyone really know the truth beyond internet pics etc? Sure, some will believe anything they see on the internet, but was it real? I dont care one way or the other, he is who he is now which is very sad, but I dont think theres anything anyone can do about it. Why dont they just prove it to everyone, without a shadow of a doubt, so people stop making it such a big issue? Personally, Im tired of hearing about it.
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The thing is this souldnt be a circus act to try and perform, he was a senator and if I'm not mistaken would have also had to show his birth certificate then.

Its funny how something like this is made into some bait and switch hide and seek game. Obviously there is something askew here or it wouldnt be a big deal.

How ever the same people calling others who just want nothing more than proof birthers are the same one's who think Bush ordered 911 and eat up Micheal Moorons dribble with a big spoon.

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Does anyone really know the truth beyond internet pics etc? Sure, some will believe anything they see on the internet, but was it real? I dont care one way or the other, he is who he is now which is very sad, but I dont think theres anything anyone can do about it. Why dont they just prove it to everyone, without a shadow of a doubt, so people stop making it such a big issue? Personally, Im tired of hearing about it.
I agree with you that there is nothing that can be done with it now.
I dont think he took the position of POTUS legally, according to the
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I agree with you that there is nothing that can be done with it now.
I dont think he took the position of POTUS legally, according to the
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I wish the thing would get settled, it's so easy to produce the document IF he has it....

The whole thing smells of corruption....just look at all the government support available for illegals, they don't need a birth certificate to collect.


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If anything, these nut jobs that believe everything Obamie and his mainstream media tells them......should be the FIRST ones to call for him to reveal ALL of his records. That way they could say "NANA, NANA, NANA....I TOLD YOU SO"! Instead they hide behind him and point a finger at those who SUPPORT the Constitution and believe it should be followed AS WRITTEN!

The c0cksucker has something to hide, whether it's his citizenship or something else......it doesn't take a genius to figure it out...but then again there aren't many left wing geniuses!

It doesn't matter to me where the prik was born, he's still a sorry excuse for a POTUS with a fukin agenda that DOESN'T favor you and me.

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If he wasn't born in Hawaii or if he was born in Hawaii and claimed foreign citizenship, has a crime been committed?

If only those who knew what they were talking about replied, this thread would still be on page one.
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