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"No refusal" DUI checkpoints

I absolutely despise DUIs and think alcohol and automobiles is one place where zero tolerance should be practiced but this seems very questionable....

"No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa | Tampa Bay, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota | WTSP.com 10 News

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Florida is among several states now holding what are called "no refusal" checkpoints.

It means if you refuse a breath test during a traffic stop, a judge is on site, and issues a warrant that allows police to perform a mandatory blood test.

It's already being done in several counties, and now Unfried is working to bring it to the Tampa Bay area.

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I absolutely despise DUIs and think alcohol and automobiles is one place where zero tolerance should be practiced but this seems very questionable....

"No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa | Tampa Bay, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota | WTSP.com 10 News
This being done in Tx too. Judge issues an immediate warrant for blood draw...





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OUTSTANDING!

You bury enough family and friends that lost their lives because someone wanted to get their drink on and drive you'll stop questioning it.

I've submitted to MANY breathy's. Most Motor Carrier ins providers demand it. I've got nothing to hide!

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I agree. If you have nothing to hide, then whats the problem. Drinking and driving is one of those things I just have ZERO tolerance for.

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I agree. If you have nothing to hide, then whats the problem. Drinking and driving is one of those things I just have ZERO tolerance for.
I also agree but the slope from "subjects" to "citizens" is starting to slope the other way at a very rapid pace.

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I absolutely despise DUIs and think alcohol and automobiles is one place where zero tolerance should be practiced but this seems very questionable....

"No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa | Tampa Bay, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota | WTSP.com 10 News
People will think this is alright until they apply the same concept to searching vehicles for drugs.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints

I am against drinking and driving as well (not that I think anyone will admit they are pro drinking and driving), but this may actually allow a person to pass a test where they would have failed if given a breathalyzer on the spot.

-for instance, If I had too many beers at the bar and I get stopped at one of these check points where I refuse a breathalyzer, think about the amount of time that will pass until I actually get my blood drawn. By the time the police cuff me and stuff me, read my rights, do my paper work, then get me to the hospital it could easily take an hour. When was the last time any of you went to your local ER? I work in one so I know how long stuff takes. It could take an hr or even two until they get blood drawn. What if I have crap for veins and it takes even longer?

That's just an example why I don't like that idea. I've always told ppl that if they are drinking and driving to demand a blood test vs a breathalyzer for that very reason. Guess working in the medical field give me a different outlook on it

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People will think this is alright until they apply the same concept to searching vehicles for drugs.
or anything else for that matter.

People need to be very careful of what they wish for.

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I'm all for keeping freedom but this is a "Lessor of 2 evils" argument not slippery slope.

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I also agree but the slope from "subjects" to "citizens" is starting to slope the other way at a very rapid pace.
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I'm all for keeping freedom but this is a "Lessor of 2 evils" argument not slippery slope.
See my sig and think TSA....30 years ago...with what little security there was no one could fathom the type privacy invasion would be happening today.

Making criminals of every tom dick and sue is not the answer. Attempted murder penalty for a DUI conviction would go much further. My wife has a step brother that has had 6 DUI convictions. Never spent more than 24 hours in jail.

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