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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-17-2010, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
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HERE IS SOME REALLY BAD NEW GUN REGULATION FOR CHRISTMAS!!

got this warning in a email today from J&G sales out of prescott AZ today:

Dear J&G Customer,
This is a special notice to warn you of impending new gun regulation. The ATF has proposed to require gun dealers to provide directly to the ATF the names, addresses, and serial numbers for every purchase of two or more semi auto, mag fed rifles within a five day period!! They are trying to force this in by January 5th, without any approval from Congress, calling it a needed "emergency" regulation. This is backdoor registration of guns and gunowners.

Here is a quote from the notice by the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) regarding this burdensome and illegal move:

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is moving to require federally licensed firearms retailers to report multiple sales of modern sporting rifles beginning January 5, 2011. Specifically, the ATF requirement calls for firearms retailers to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days."

We are encouraging everyone to contact the relevant officials to protest this move. The office that approves regulation changes like this that bypass Congress is the Office of Information and Regulation affairs of the DOJ and they can be reached at 202-395-6466. You can call your Senator and Representative at the US Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.

The NSSF offers the following points to make when calling

1."Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement."

2."Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics)."
"Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening Americaís retailers Ė where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail."

3."Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing."

4."According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico itís more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states."

5."Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns Ė it specifically chose not to."

Read the full notice by the NSSF here:
ATF to Require Multiple Sales Reports for Long Guns | NSSF Blog

Read the full ATF document proposing this illegal move here: (PDF)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...uments/atf.pdf



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Not surprised....already happens with multiple handgun purchases

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not surprised.. it is the BATF..

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The spin is gradually shifting the blame for border drug wars on the US gun laws. If you are a conspiracy theorist you could believe that the lack of interest in border security by the administration is so the rise in violence will provide ammo, pun intended, for stricter gun laws.

If only those who knew what they were talking about replied, this thread would still be on page one.
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The spin is gradually shifting the blame for border drug wars on the US gun laws. If you are a conspiracy theorist you could believe that the lack of interest in border security by the administration is so the rise in violence will provide ammo, pun intended, for stricter gun laws.

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Don"t be surprised when they try to push this onto all gun purchases. They want to control every single aspect of our lives.

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I have a single shot 22 rifle that I ordered from the Sears catalog. The Mailman delivered it to my house. To this day it hasn't injured or killed anyone.

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I have a single shot 22 rifle that I ordered from the Sears catalog. The Mailman delivered it to my house. To this day it hasn't injured or killed anyone.
It must be defective....

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ummmm...not really new news...it's been happening for years....you are run through the FBI when you buy a gun....

...so it's no different...now the FBI and the ATF have you on file....no biggie
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ummmm...not really new news...it's been happening for years....you are run through the FBI when you buy a gun....

...so it's no different...now the FBI and the ATF have you on file....no biggie
I hate to say it, but Tanks is right.

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