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"If I had an RFID that didn't have a cover, a driver's license, a credit card, a corporate ID card . . . suddenly a [shielded] wallet isn't such a stupid idea," says Schneier, an author of books on security and the chief technology officer of Santa Clara, Calif.-based BT Counterpane, a network security company.

Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, keeps an ad for one of those shielded wallets, clipped from a travel mag, posted on his office door. It's a little joke, but he's also serious. "RFID creates security and privacy risks," he says.

A couple of years ago, when the State Department announced the new style of passports, EPIC recommended that people wrap their passports in tinfoil. Instead, the State Department addressed such concerns by embedding metallic shielding in the front and back cover of the passport books. In addition, the new "passport cards" to be offered to U.S. citizens who travel frequently between the United States and Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean will come with similarly shielded sleeves.

The fact that the State Department has resorted to shielding material -- does that mean the threat is real, that shielded wallets for other types of cards are a good idea? Schneier, for one, thinks the passport books are still vulnerable when they are open.

But spokesmen for the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security say the shields are just an extra level of security for documents that are already safe because of encryption and the nature of the information on them. Even when the passport books are open, the digital information can be read by a scanner no more than a few inches away, says spokesman Steve Royster. As for the passport cards for frequent border-crossers, they can be read at 20 to 30 feet but contain no personal information, Royster says. The personal stuff is safe in government computers, he says.

MasterCard, for its part, says consumers need not invest in shielded wallets -- they can save their money for other purchases.

"All of our cards go through very strict security testing," says MasterCard spokeswoman Erica Harvill, who says she carries her PayPass unshielded as a key fob. The data on the cards are encrypted using a system involving random, unique authentication codes that can only be used once, Harvill says. In addition, the signals can travel only a very short distance.

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I don't know how many here know what a FAST/Xpress card is, but it's a card used to cross the border, without using a passport, issued to cross border truck drivers, and may be some others. I got a new one about a year or so ago with the RFID thing. It came in a copper lined envelope, and the literature that came with it, stated to keep it in the sleeve, unless you're using it. I wonder if the new passports come with a sleeve? And how about the enhanced driver licenses out there?

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I don't know how many here know what a FAST/Xpress card is, but it's a card used to cross the border, without using a passport, issued to cross border truck drivers, and may be some others. I got a new one about a year or so ago with the RFID thing. It came in a copper lined envelope, and the literature that came with it, stated to keep it in the sleeve, unless you're using it. I wonder if the new passports come with a sleeve? And how about the enhanced driver licenses out there?

The new passports have the front and back cover made so that electronic signals can't go through.

The covers are thicker/stiffer on the new ones (I just got a new one a couple of years ago and compared it to my old one).

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And you guys make fun of us tin-foil beanie folk...

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And you guys make fun of us tin-foil beanie folk...
Only you guys down in that corner of the state!!

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I don't care if my CC # is stolen .....

Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover, etc, offer very good protection for their consumers

RFID on Passports & Driver's License is much more of a concern in this scenario as is showing your ID to use your Credit Card @ a retailer

Credit Card companies policy is, as long as the CC is signed, no ID is required nor should the retailer ask for it.

The reason being is once you whip out your driver's license to use your credit card not only is your CC# known but so is all of your other pertinent info.

Criminals have been using cell phone cameras while standing in line behind unsuspecting customers to gather personal information for several years now. Not to mention some of the criminals that have sat behind the security monitors at various retail outlets.

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The smarter we make things the easier it is to steal.
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My money clip credit card holder is in my front pocket. If some dude gets that close to me with a electronic device, He is going to get a fist.
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