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post #1 of 82 (permalink) Old 10-28-2010, 05:10 PM Thread Starter
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There's been quite a few posts lately in some of these threads regarding information and so-called "news" from very biased sources. Some folks tend to believe these sources as fact, without taking the time to verify the real or whole story.

It's a huge problem that has been popping up lately. Someone finally addressed the problem in a book. It's written by John Avlon, a former aide to Rudy Guiliani, called "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America".

The book attacks both left and right wing extremists, and talks about the attitudes of those like Glenn Beck (on the far right), and Keith Olbermann (on the far left) as making careers out of being divisive, compulsive liars, and harming American media.

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What is a wingnut? It’s someone on the far-right wing or far-left wing of the political spectrum. they are the professional partisans and unhinged activists, the hard-core haters and the paranoid conspiracy theorists. And they are on the rise.

Pumped up by the self-segregated echo chamer of talk radio, cable news, and the Internet, Winguts see politics as ideological bloodsport, an all-or-nothing struggle for the nation’s soul. They are energized by dividing Amreica into “us against them.” And for those with a vested interest in stirring the crazy-pot, all all this is good for business. Hate is a cheap and easy recruiting tool. But it can be murder on democracy.
He talks about how people are now getting most of their news from "professional polarizers" who's sole job is to divide America and make enemies out of each other. It's an onslaught of misinformation presented to the American people every day, laid out on the pretense of being "informed".

Misinformed is NOT being informed. I would suggest that some folks may want to look at this book, and learn how to recognize biased sources, search for real facts, and not let their opinions be formed by those who make money on attempting to divide this country.

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Re: Wingnuts

I hope his editor did a better job of spell check throughout the rest of the book.

Just messing. I am sure it would be an interesting read. It's always good to get a take from someone who despises both the right wing extremist and the left wing extremist. It seems in today's society a lot of people try and associate themselves with the far left and far right instead of trying to do this country some good and meet in the middle. Obama himself is a victim of bipartisanship.....which is something he ran against in 2008, and surprisingly still preaches about quite often.

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Would these same wingnuts be the ones that hand delivered ballots to a prison in IL while not allowing troops over seas fom IL to have there's counted? Since when can felons vote?

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Obama himself is a victim of bipartisanship.....which is something he ran against in 2008, and surprisingly still preaches about quite often.
You mean "partisanship?"

Yeah, Obama has not been nearly as bipartisan as hoped.

To be honest though, the Republicans playbook after their humiliating and total defeat in the last elections............ has to been to block/stall anything that the Dem's propose and might give them something to brag about in the next elections.

It's hard to be 'bipartisan,'................ when the other side bands together unanimously.

To be frank though, the strategy has seemed to work................ and they're now poised to gain back a big portion of what they lost.

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Would these same wingnuts be the ones that hand delivered ballots to a prison in IL while not allowing troops over seas fom IL to have there's counted? Since when can felons vote?
That would be an example of "wingnut" news.

Here's an example of where that story comes from:
Illinois Soldiers Wait for Ballots. Prisoners Get Hand Delivery. - Big Government

Notice how it never states WHEN the ballots were mailed, it just simply claims they are late. Furthermore, it fails to mention the provisions of the 2009 Move Act, which incorporates a grace period if ballots are late. In addition, states can mail out these ballots late if they provide a waiver, which also means that those same ballots will still be counted if they arrive after elections.

See, wingnut news doesn't give you the whole story. It takes one small nugget of fact, and then creates a whole new bogus story that conveniently leaves out important details. What it does is create a whole new opinion based on misinformation.

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I hope his editor did a better job of spell check throughout the rest of the book.
That would be my fault. Pretty embarrassing actually. I guess that's what I get for forum whoring while updating web sites.

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Just messing. I am sure it would be an interesting read. It's always good to get a take from someone who despises both the right wing extremist and the left wing extremist. It seems in today's society a lot of people try and associate themselves with the far left and far right instead of trying to do this country some good and meet in the middle. Obama himself is a victim of bipartisanship.....which is something he ran against in 2008, and surprisingly still preaches about quite often.
I agree completely.

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You mean "partisanship?"

Yeah, Obama has not been nearly as bipartisan as hoped.

To be honest though, the Republicans playbook after their humiliating and total defeat in the last elections............ has to been to block/stall anything that the Dem's propose and might give them something to brag about in the next elections.

It's hard to be 'bipartisan,'................ when the other side bands together unanimously.

To be frank though, the strategy has seemed to work................ and they're now poised to gain back a big portion of what they lost.

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You mean "partisanship?"

Yeah, Obama has not been nearly as bipartisan as hoped.

To be honest though, the Republicans playbook after their humiliating and total defeat in the last elections............ has to been to block/stall anything that the Dem's propose and might give them something to brag about in the next elections.

It's hard to be 'bipartisan,'................ when the other side bands together unanimously.

To be frank though, the strategy has seemed to work................ and they're now poised to gain back a big portion of what they lost.

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You mean "partisanship?"
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Ya those dickheads keep stalling socialism...
Those dickheads and the ones for the past 70 - 80 years have already instituted socialism.....all these have done is slowed the process slightly.

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