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Health Care News / Warning

As many of you know all children are not subject to underwriting or paying ANY (ZERO) money for any preventive care under obamacare. Children however are covered if the parents have a current plan at birth.

The first fallout was a nationwide drop of all children only plans. These plans where much less money but have been eliminated. More news is coming out, insurance companies cannot sustain coverage that has zero underwriting. A MAJOR player who I will not name has "said" that they will not cover any children period. They have decided to not focus on any new business and instead protect there current book. There just isn't enough room in premium increases to exsisting clients to sustain this. The goverment has put in a "open enrollment" period which is yet to be announced.

I have not confirmed this completly but my source is reliable. This is what will happen when goverment goes beyond its means and "tells" private companies what they can and can't do. There are simple solutions to these problems but the goverment has taken a role that goes beyond maintaining a level playing field. For those of you who want full blown socialism and support this agenda go ahead and blame the insurance companies who are trying to stay in business to help people when they need it most. For those of us who perfer to avoid that go vote!

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no,no your all wrong,gandy says so
he will come on here and explain why you are a retard
and how your so freaking stupid,that you just dont understand,
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I don't believe I have ever called anyone a "retard" and even try not to use the word "stupid."

As if y'all didn't know however, I do have a different view on health care reform.

This action is being taken because the insurance companies can no longer exclude children with pre-existing conditions.

The worst part about this whole bill (and was a compromise I didn't care for), is that they will be covered eventually....but not until 2014.

As I've said all along.....I still prefer a single-payer (universal) system.



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I don't believe I have ever called anyone a "retard" and even try not to use the word "stupid."

As if y'all didn't know however, I do have a different view on health care reform.

This action is being taken because the insurance companies can no longer exclude children with pre-existing conditions.

The worst part about this whole bill (and was a compromise I didn't care for), is that they will be covered eventually....but not until 2014.

As I've said all along.....I still prefer a single-payer (universal) system.



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So you support socialism because a single payer is just that. And this action is being taken because they cannot sustain it. If they could insure everyone and stay in business they would, trust me!

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So you support socialism because a single payer is just that.
I think I've made my opinion pretty well known by now.

When it comes to taking care of the health of American citizens......yes.

Just as I am also an advocate of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid (although they do need to make changes to it before long).



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And this action is being taken because they cannot sustain it. If they could insure everyone and stay in business they would, trust me!
I fully understand.

Paying stockholders or dividends, puts a lot of pressure on making a profit.

And even for those that are not-for-profit, it's tough.

That's why I think we should follow the example of almost every other single civilized nation on this planet....and protect our fellow American citizens.

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I think I've made my opinion pretty well known by now.

When it comes to taking care of the health of American citizens......yes.

Just as I am also an advocate of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid (although they do need to make changes to it before long).



I fully understand.

Paying stockholders or dividends, puts a lot of pressure on making a profit.

And even for those that are not-for-profit, it's tough.

That's why I think we should follow the example of almost every other single civilized nation on this planet....and protect our fellow American citizens.

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Ok so your a socialist, and we should follow the lead of every other country even though we are suppose to be the land of the free. Yet millions of people are flooding in to the US. It blows me away that you are dying to be like every other country, when the USA was built on not being like them.

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Ok so your a socialist, and we should follow the lead of every other country even though we are suppose to be the land of the free. Yet millions of people are flooding in to the US. It blows me away that you are dying to be like every other country, when the USA was built on not being like them.
Being a "Socialist"............... encompasses a heck of a lot more than just believing we should be able to take care of our citizens health and old age.

And I have said that I think we should follow other civilized nations...........only in the health and old age of Americans.

Does that make me bad?



Or would you prefer that we put them on an ice floe............. and wave?
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I think I've made my opinion pretty well known by now.

When it comes to taking care of the health of American citizens......yes.

Just as I am also an advocate of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid (although they do need to make changes to it before long).



I fully understand.

Paying stockholders or dividends, puts a lot of pressure on making a profit.

And even for those that are not-for-profit, it's tough.

That's why I think we should follow the example of almost every other single civilized nation on this planet....and protect our fellow American citizens.

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Yeah that 3% profit margin average. Real huge profits Rick

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Being a "Socialist"............... encompasses a heck of a lot more than just believing we should be able to take care of our citizens health and old age.

And I have said that I think we should follow other civilized nations...........only in the health and old age of Americans.

Does that make me bad?



Or would you prefer that we put them on an ice floe............. and wave?
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I don't really think you can kindoff be a socialist. That idea is very dangerous to me, it is a very slipery slope. I will give you an example the American indian was probaly the proudest people to ever live. After the goverment got done screwing them they decided to "take care of them". They now have zero motivation to work hard and have fallin so far from grace it sad. Another example Detroit...

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Yeah that 3% profit margin average. Real huge profits Rick.
And I think you're being purposely disengenious Dave.

What you're forgetting, is that 'volume' is the key......not profit %.

Besides, I believe the health insurance industry is up around 6%.

Not to mention, that oil companies only make about a 3% profit. How are they doing?

You will excuse me if I don't feel too sorry for them....won't you?

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The five largest U.S. health insurance companies sailed through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression to set new industry profit records in 2009, a feat accomplished by leaving behind 2.7 million Americans who had been in private health plans. For customers who kept their benefits, the insurers raised rates and cost-sharing, and cut the share of premiums spent on medical care.1 Executives and shareholders of the five biggest for-profit health insurers, UnitedHealth Group Inc., WellPoint Inc., Aetna Inc., Humana Inc., and Cigna Corp., enjoyed combined profit of $12.2 billion in 2009, up 56 percent from the previous year. It was the best year ever for Big Insurance.

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