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PENSACOLA, Fla. – BP fumbled its latest underwater experiment with the wild Gulf gusher - just like every other endeavor the company has tried to fix the nation's worst oil spill and BP's chief executive said the company wasn't fully prepared for the disaster.

First, a 100-ton, four-story box couldn't contain the spill because icelike crystals clogged the top. Then, a straw-like device that actually did capture crude was inconsistent at best. The supposed top kill — shooting heavy mud and junk into the well — couldn't overcome the pressure of the oil. And the most recent risky gambit ran into trouble a mile under the sea Wednesday when a diamond-tipped saw became stuck after slicing through about half of the blown-out well.

It took BP 12 hours to free the saw, and the company hopes to use giant shears similar to an oversized garden tool to snip off the pipe. However, the cut won't be as clean if successful, and a looser fitting cap will have to be placed over the spill.

No timetable was given for when that might start, a familiar refrain in this six-week-old disaster.


It sure will be nice when they are successful at stopping the spewing.


And then there's insights into the corporate philosophy................ from the head of BP himself.

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- On April 29, The New York Times reported that Hayward, apparently exasperated, turned to fellow executives in his London office and asked, “What the hell did we do to deserve this?" (A possible answer might be the company's 760 safety violations over the last three years. ExxonMobil, in contrast, has had just one.)

- On May 14, Hayward attempted to persuade The Guardian that "the Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean. The amount of volume of oil and dispersant we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total water volume."

- Only a few days later, he told Sky News that "the environmental impact of this disaster is likely to be very, very modest." That might surprise the many scientists who see the spill as a true environmental calamity, the full extent of which remains unclear.

- On May 30, Hayward was less bullish and decided to play the sympathy card. He told the Today show that "there’s no one who wants this over more than I do. I would like my life back." (He has since apologized for those remarks.) What about the 11 employees who will never have "their life back?"

- On May 31, he told the world that ecosystem-threatening underwater oil plumes—consisting of droplets of partially dissolved oil suspended in water that many scientists have observed—do not exist. He said simply, "There aren't any plumes."

- On June 1, Hayward responded to claims that cleanup workers were being sickened by the fumes from the oil they were exposed to by suggesting another possible, non-oil-spill cause. When nine workers fell ill, according to Yahoo News, he told CNN that "food poisoning is clearly a big issue."
Yeah, the real problem is that we have too much government oversight.

As can be plainly seen, big business is always willing to do the right thing and look out for the environment and citizens.

Never have so many politicians, screwed so many Americans...just to make one black person lose his job.
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Why isnt the coast guard trying to do something? I think BP has had more than enough opportunitys to fix this.
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Why isnt the coast guard trying to do something? I think BP has had more than enough opportunitys to fix this.
The Coast Guard is overseeing everything being done, as I understand it.

However, I seriously doubt if they have the technological resources to do it themselves.

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It sure will be nice when they are successful at stopping the spewing.


And then there's insights into the corporate philosophy................ from the head of BP himself.

Tony Hayward (click here)



Yeah, the real problem is that we have too much government oversight.

As can be plainly seen, big business is always willing to do the right thing and look out for the environment and citizens.
What good has the government oversight done? How many documented issues have come to light since the spew started in which the government did nothing about?

BP should pay and pay dearly right now. Not 20 years from now but now. We should start hitting them and hitting them hard. But our government in their ultimate wisdom will allow this to drag out for years and year all the while using tax money to cover the losses.

Of course maybe we shouldn't issue drill permits to companies that do business with BP either.

Gulf Oil Spill Doesn't Stop Feds' Approval Of New Offshore Oil Well Off Louisiana

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What good has the government oversight done? How many documented issues have come to light since the spew started in which the government did nothing about?

BP should pay and pay dearly right now. Not 20 years from now but now. We should start hitting them and hitting them hard. But our government in their ultimate wisdom will allow this to drag out for years and year all the while using tax money to cover the losses.
It wasn't the "government" that drug their feet...(note-just 3 periods ) on taking 20 years to settle the Exxon Valdez lawsuits.

It was the court system.

And the deep pockets of Exxon.

And even then, it came down to a right-leaning SCOTUS that gutted the original awards.


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Of course maybe we shouldn't issue drill permits to companies that do business with BP either.

Gulf Oil Spill Doesn't Stop Feds' Approval Of New Offshore Oil Well Off Louisiana
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Bob Abbey, named Friday to lead the agency, said operators will be required to submit additional information about potential risks and safety considerations before being allowed to drill. The rule applies even to those plans that have already been approved or received a waiver exempting them from detailed environmental scrutiny, Abbey said.

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That permit was issued this morning. That driller subs out platforms to BP.

But why didn't the government put a stop to this platform when they realized there were issues. Issues 5 years ago and issues just late last year.

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it all comes down to $$$. we put men down 12,600 feet in a craft to find the Titanic, and you're telling me we can't send guys down there to fix this thing right, rather than sending ROV's that quite clearly can't fix the issue? BP will just keep lining their pockets like their 14 billion dollar profits last year instead of ponying up to fix it.

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That permit was issued this morning. That driller subs out platforms to BP.

But why didn't the government put a stop to this platform when they realized there were issues. Issues 5 years ago and issues just late last year.
Get back to the basic problem of the drilling rig being built overseas with no standards or guidelines in place. If it was made in America, you could bet your hind end we wouldn't be having this problem.

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Get back to the basic problem of the drilling rig being built overseas with no standards or guidelines in place. If it was made in America, you could bet your hind end we wouldn't be having this problem.
It was built by Hyundai Heavy Industries, which is one of the world's biggest shipbuilding companies. The issue isn't that the rig was built overseas, it's that the basic safety systems in place malfunctioned or were turned off - human error. The same thing would've happened no matter where the rig was built.

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BP will just keep lining their pockets like their 14 billion dollar profits last year instead of ponying up to fix it.
How is BP lining their pockets during this? Looks to me like they are paying a ton of money for this disaster....

I wish people, especially the news would understand what is going on down there and that, this isn't something that is easy to fix. Here is a link showing the events of a similar situation that happened last year in Australia. It took them FIVE tries and 3 months to intercept the well and kill it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skytrut...7622226354812/

Also, drilling is something that will be needed for a long time. I would prefer that we create jobs here in America and reduce our use of foreign oil. This means continuing to drill and explore. The bottom line is that people need to be held accountable for this disaster but there is NO reason to cease all offshore drilling.

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Sooo Gandalf, what could your wonderful govt have done to prevent this?

Please enlighten us.
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