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Big shocker HCR does nothing to control costs

Yup thats right libs. Your premiums are goin UP UP UP.
Maybe you will start listening to us now

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Re: Big shocker HCR does nothing to control costs

Let me see if I have this right.

You're complaining that the government isn't exercising enough control over the private sector?

It would be pretty naive to think that the bill is causing increases in premiums, when it has been happening every year without the bill.

Besides, the main issue for me has always been to allow those without affordable health care.................a chance to get it.

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Let me see if I have this right.

You're complaining that the government isn't exercising enough control over the private sector?

It would be pretty naive to think that the bill is causing increases in premiums, when it has been happening every year without the bill.

Besides, the main issue for me has always been to allow those without affordable health care.................a chance to get it.
No Gandy Im not advocating government control.

What I was saying is the dumbocrats big sell item with the bill was everyone can be covered and it will be affordable.

Guess they lied about the affordable part.

Odumba said all along that the bill would not allow for premium increases

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What I was saying is the dumbocrats big sell item with the bill was everyone can be covered and it will be affordable.
Gee Dave, now it's gotten to the point where name calling is the norm for you?



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Guess they lied about the affordable part.

Odumba said all along that the bill would not allow for premium increases.
I'm throwing the BS flag on that one.

Show me where anyone said that the bill would............. "not allow for premium increases."

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Although Democrats promised greater consumer protection, the overhaul does not give the federal government broad regulatory power to prevent increases.

Many state governments -- which traditionally had responsibility for regulating insurance companies -- also do not have such authority. And several that do are now being sued by insurance companies.

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Gee Dave, now it's gotten to the point where name calling is the norm for you?




I'm throwing the BS flag on that one.

Show me where anyone said that the bill would............. "not allow for premium increases."

From your link...
I seem to remember Obama and Pelosi saying this bill will keep health care affordable for all on many many occasions.

Guess they lied as usual

As to why Im cranky. Im getting sick of hearing patients say Obamacare is paying for their ambulance ride.

If they only knew the truth

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.......... dumbocrats ............
I thought it was Dumbocans and Assocrats. Or are you using Dumbocrats to include both parties.

If only those who knew what they were talking about replied, this thread would still be on page one.
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I seem to remember Obama and Pelosi saying this bill will keep health care affordable for all on many many occasions.
I remember them (and the CBO) saying that it will slow the rise of premiums.

And................................it's waaaaay too early to tell that.


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As to why Im cranky. Im getting sick of hearing patients say Obamacare is paying for their ambulance ride.

If they only knew the truth
Ambulance rides have been "free" pretty much since the passage of EMTALA.

Which, by the way, was passed during Reagan's tenure.

I'll take a wild guess but............I would bet you didn't whine about it for the 8 years Bush was in office.

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And I remember them (and the CBO) saying that it will slow the rise of premiums.

And it's way too early to tell that.




Ambulance rides have been "free" pretty much since the passage of EMTALA.

Which, by the way, was passed during Reagan's tenure.
The thing is most of em dont know about EMTALA

They all think Uncle Barry is doing them a favor. And now they think we are required to take them to their clinic of choice. Guess what we arent

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I'll take a wild guess but............I would bet you didn't whine about it for the 8 years Bush was in office.
Oh yeah It pissed me off then too. But it has gotten about 10 times worse now

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The thing is most of em dont know about EMTALA

They all think Uncle Barry is doing them a favor. And now they think we are required to take them to their clinic of choice. Guess what we arent
So what's the real issue?

The fact that there are free ambulance rides?

Or the fact that you can't stomach the idea of them mentioning Obama?

It's easy enough to tell them that nothing has changed as far as them being allowed emergency care, including ambulance rides, to the nearest medical facility but...........that doesn't mean they can dictate where they go.

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