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Anyone watching the healthcare summit?

I have been keeping an eye on this thing, even with all these people coming together to try to make some progress on the healthcare issue, it looks like a big waste of time.

There have been several times that someone would challenge a point of Obama's and he would just say "...well that is a legitimate point..." and would just move on, without ever addressing the legimitate point. It is ridiculus. Obama just now totally ignored a point raised about malpractice reform.

One thing to me, that makes it almost impossible for anyone to get anything done in Washington, is everyone just pulls numbers out of their butts. There needs to be some sort of organization to their statistics. One guy says there will be 500 billion in savings, then it is 200 billion, or 400 billion. There is absolutely no consistency in anything they do and it seems to be wildley inefficient.

Just some thoughts I had when watching this thing. I also get fed up hearing everyone ram their head up Obama's rear before they speak!

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My thoughts?

It is time for a revolution. It is time the guberment gets cuts down to the correct size. It is time for the guberment to do what they are constitutionaly allowed / required to do, no more no less.

Until that happens this will only get worse.
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There have been several times that someone would challenge a point of Obama's and he would just say "...well that is a legitimate point..." and would just move on, without ever addressing the legimitate point. It is ridiculus. Obama just now totally ignored a point raised about malpractice reform.
I've noticed that he does that..... often.

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One thing to me, that makes it almost impossible for anyone to get anything done in Washington, is everyone just pulls numbers out of their butts. There needs to be some sort of organization to their statistics. One guy says there will be 500 billion in savings, then it is 200 billion, or 400 billion. There is absolutely no consistency in anything they do and it seems to be wildley inefficient.
Now that's politics as usual. Anyone remember the term "fuzzy math"?

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Just some thoughts I had when watching this thing. I also get fed up hearing everyone ram their head up Obama's rear before they speak!
"I would like to thank the president for the opportunity to speak".....

F-that. I'm an American, and it's my RIGHT to speak. It's not an opportunity, I don't need permission, and it's not a privilege.... it's a right! Just try and shut me up. Other people on the forum have!!!!

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Yeah, why are you watching that anyway? There's a "babe of the day" thread that deserves way more attention than a room full of windbags.

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You know what's really odd????? Vice President Biden has always been ridiculed as an idiot, kinda like Dan Quayle as VP under Bush Sr. Yet I think he said the smartest thing the entire night, and probably has more insight than anyone else in Washington with this statement:

"I think it requires a little bit of humility to be able to know what the American people think, and I don't. I can't swear I do. I know what I think. I think I know what they think, but I'm not sure what they think."

At least he can admit it. Something that I haven't heard from any other politician in Washington. Maybe I'll vote for Biden..... well, that might be a stretch. But at least he's made it up one rung on the ladder. So he's on rung #1.

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I see the nuclear option coming soon to a theater near you. Glad to see that 58-63% (depends on who did the poll) of Americans don't want this, but they are going to ram it to us anyway. What happened to elected by the people for the people?

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I see the nuclear option coming soon to a theater near you. Glad to see that 58-63% (depends on who did the poll) of Americans don't want this, but they are going to ram it to us anyway. What happened to elected by the people for the people?
Those numbers are from a poll on the current health care bill, which is pretty much dead.

However, a majority of Americans do believe that our current health care system needs to be fixed. Problem is, a majority of Americans have a much better solution to fixing the problem than Washington.

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Yeah, why are you watching that anyway? There's a "babe of the day" thread that deserves way more attention than a room full of windbags.
I had it playing on my computer while I was working today just to see what kind of crap they are dreaming up that they think you and I and everyone else "NEEDS" or else.

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I had it playing on my computer while I was working today just to see what kind of crap they are dreaming up that they think you and I and everyone else "NEEDS" or else.
Such a sin to rob so much bandwidth away from porn.

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Those numbers are from a poll on the current health care bill, which is pretty much dead. Yeah, I know those numbers are for the bill that we already have, I have this bad feeling though they will shove it thru with the nuclear option, we will see in the real near future. I did notice that Obama didn't take that off the table today unless it was after 2:00, I haven't updated where we set yet.

However, a majority of Americans do believe that our current health care system needs to be fixed. Problem is, a majority of Americans have a much better solution to fixing the problem than Washington.
I can't think of anyone I know that doesn't think Health Care needs to be reformed, but I also don't know anybody that wants anything to do with what is on the table either.

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I just finished watching this on the web. Did the POTUS' closing comments basically say... if the republicans can't give their own plan and/or agree in amendments to the current plan, they'll just go ahead with reconciliation? Sounded like a threat to me *shrugs*

As one of the millions of Americans who doesn't have health insurance, I'd prefer to not have the govt in charge of this. All of us can agree I think, reform is needed but mandating it isn't something most of us want.

A time or so, some of those folks commented that SS and Medicaid/Medicare was tough legislation to pass. Probably so, I wasn't into politics then but what we all see now, is the huge mess these things are in today. How in the hell, will this be any different?

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