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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-13-2009, 04:12 AM Thread Starter
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We should pull out NOW!

An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week, which I quote:
"If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers"
The firearm death rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 percent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital,which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the US, than you are in Iraq.
Conclusion "The US should pull out of Washington."


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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-13-2009, 04:24 AM
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Thank You!!!! Thats some statistics that the Hippies should take note of.


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Thank You!!!! Thats some statistics that the Hippies should take note of.
How dare you state facts. Hippies don't believe in facts. Hence man made global warming and gun control. That is hate speach, you must be a rascist too.

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Although it's a funny chain e-mail it's completely inaccurate and even if the numbers were correct it still is not a fair comparison for many reasons.

I could start by pointing out that the murder rate in DC is closer to 32/ 100K (181 homicides in 2007, 580K population) and that closer to 4500 US soldiers have died in Iraq (w/ another 60K or so maimed), as well as closer to 800K Iraqis and a few soldiers from other nations as well (admittedly over a multi year period) but either way, a war death rate statistic has nothing to do w/ what occurs in a crime ridden impoverished inner city.

In no way am I endorsing a specific set of gun laws I'm just trying to point out how, as always, these chain e-mail messages we all receive arrive w/ an agenda purportedly supported by 'facts' to attempt to 'prove' their point but the facts are usually out right lies meant to decieve.

I also would like to add that I'm use to this sort of unsubstantiated propaganda being propogated by many of the forum members, but not from Blowby. WTH? Humor I guess.

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OK let's look at NY for May 2008. Double the death rate of Iraq.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/wo...iraq.html?_r=1

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Just try to find the data for other states as needed. We know DC will alter the numbers since they have a NO gun law but the highest crime rate by hand gun .


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Is Sun's a hippie?


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Is Sun's a hippie?
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No, I don't think he's a hippie. At least, not in the most liberal sense of the term.

He's an interesting guy with some prejudices (but don't we all?) and interesting view points. His thoughts are usually well thought out and considered, making them to be a usually good thing to read.

But, while I don't agree with everything he says, I'll listen to (read) his ideas.

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No, I don't think he's a hippie. At least, not in the most liberal sense of the term.

He's an interesting guy with some prejudices (but don't we all?) and interesting view points. His thoughts are usually well thought out and considered, making them to be a usually good thing to read.

But, while I don't agree with everything he says, I'll listen to (read) his ideas.
I dont not like the guy, we just have some very different viewpoints. I do wish we could all just agree, but its never going to happen.
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