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Obama guts welfare reform......

It appears, that by decree, dictator Obama has gutted the very basics of the 1996 Clinton bi-partisan welfare reform law by allowing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to re-define the definition of work.

It's been argued here over and over that Obama has done nothing that could be perceived as socialist....well here's undeniable proof to the contrary.

And BTW when you try to go to the link provided for the HHS it says..."access denied"....HMM...wonder why that is...surely "Mr Transparency" had nothing to do with it?

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The welfare reform law is often characterized as simply giving state governments more flexibility in operating welfare programs. This is a serious misunderstanding. While new law (the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996) did grants states more flexibility in some respects, the core of the act was the creation of rigorous new federal work standards that state governments were required to implement.

The welfare reform law was very successful. In the four decades prior to welfare reform, the welfare caseload never experienced a significant decline. But, in the four years after welfare reform, the caseload dropped by nearly half. Employment surged and child poverty among affected groups plummeted. The driving force behind these improvements was the rigorous new federal work requirements contained in the TANF law.

Today the Obama Administration issued a new directive stating that the traditional TANF work requirements can be waived or overridden by a legal device called the section 1115 waiver authority under the Social Security law (42 U.S.C. 1315).
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Re: Obama guts welfare reform......

Saw this last week.

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It appears, that by decree, dictator Obama has gutted the very basics of the 1996 Clinton bi-partisan welfare reform law by allowing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to re-define the definition of work.

It's been argued here over and over that Obama has done nothing that could be perceived as socialist....well here's undeniable proof to the contrary.

And BTW when you try to go to the link provided for the HHS it says..."access denied"....HMM...wonder why that is...surely "Mr Transparency" had nothing to do with it?

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Re: Obama guts welfare reform......

Hang on it's gonna get worse.....juat take a look at the power grab by this Executive Order........

Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House

Now for the nay-sayers....this isn't some Obama-bashing opinion article......this comes directly from the White House....

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Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

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Jaw dropping: over 100-million now on Federal Welfare : News : NorthwestOhio.com
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The number is staggering...and sobering.

According to a new chart about to be released later today by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee over 100 million people in U.S. are now receiving some sort of Federal Welfare.

"The federal government administers nearly 80 different overlapping federal means-tested welfare programs," the Senate Budget Committee notes.

The figures do not include those who are only benefiting from Social Security and/or Medicare.

Food Stamps and Medicare make up the majority of those getting Federal assistance.

"Among the major means tested welfare programs, since 2000 Medicaid has increased from 34 million people to 54 million in 2011 and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, or food stamps) from 17 million to 45 million in 2011," says the Senate Budget Committee. "Spending on food stamps alone is projected to reach $800 billion over the next decade."

The new numbers stem from the U.S. Censusís Survey of Income and Program Participation which shows that nearly 110,000 million individuals received a welfare benefit in 2011. The benefits counted were not limited to U.S. citizens...as non-citizens were included in the final tally.

The committee also stated "These figures do not include other means-tested benefits such as the Earned Income Tax Credit or the health insurance premium subsidies included in the Presidentís health care law. CBO estimates that the premium subsidies, scheduled to begin in 2014, will cover at least 25 million individuals by the end of the decade."

With so many more on the Welfare roles, what do you think of the allegation that the Obama Administration is removing the work reqirement for those on Federal Assistance?

I think, no I'm sure, he's a socialist....and is so arrogant that he no longer tries to hide it.

The current course we are on is unsustainable, I don't care who's side you're on.....the ship is sinking....

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The sad part is none of these freeking idiots see it. When they finaly wake up. It will be to late and then it will be our fault for not standing up.
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The really "sad part" is, some of you people don't ever bother to think for yourselves.

You would rather listen to your favorite talking head........and then just parrot them.

Even if it results in needing lots of towels........to wipe that egg off of your face.

Obama IS NOT "gutting welfare."

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Welfare is causing a ruckus in the presidential campaign. But the program is a shadow of its old self from the 1970s, when Ronald Reagan used the image of ‘‘welfare queens’’ to assail government poverty programs promoted by liberals.

Nowadays government cash assistance to the poor is mainly conditioned on work. And the Obama administration waivers excoriated by Mitt Romney as gutting welfare reform are unlikely to reverse that basic policy, as even some architects of work requirements acknowledge.

‘‘If Washington were different and ... people could sit down and reason together, it’s not impossible to think that Republicans and Democrats would come to an agreement on waivers similar to what the administration is proposing,’’ said Ron Haskins, co-director of the Brookings Center on Children and Families. As a senior House GOP aide in the 1990s, Haskins helped write the original welfare-to-work legislation.

The Obama administration says it does not want to waive work requirements, but instead primarily federal administrative rules, including some that tie up state caseworkers who could be serving clients.

The 1996 welfare reform law, a pillar of social policy for conservatives, replaced a federal entitlement with grants to the states, while putting a time limit on how long families can get aid and requiring recipients to eventually go to work.

Welfare caseloads declined for years before the recession, and there are only about 2 million families on what’s now called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or TANF for short. It’s dwarfed by the Earned Income Tax Credit, the government’s main anti-poverty program, which supplements the earnings of low-income families through the tax system and helps nearly 27 million households.

Former GOP aide Haskins said the Obama administration was wrong to roll out its waiver plan without first getting the advice and consent of congressional Republicans. But he added, ‘‘There is merit to what the administration is proposing, and I don’t see how you can get to the conclusion that the waiver provision undermines welfare reform and it eliminates the work requirement.’’

It’s not a blanket waiver because states would have to apply one at time for exemptions from certain requirements of the welfare-to-work law. And states must show their plans would move at least 20 percent more people to work.

Moreover, with or without waivers, there’s cap on the total amount of federal money available to states for welfare — about $17 billion — so it would not make much financial sense for a state to waste any of those dollars.

Such details seemed to have no place on the campaign trail.
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said Ron Haskins, co-director of the Brookings Center on Children and Families. As a senior House GOP aide in the 1990s, Haskins helped write the original welfare-to-work legislation.


So let's recap.

A guy who helped write the original law, and is a Repub stalwart, is saying that the charges from the right....are ridiculous.

Now don't y'all just feel silly for crying wolf?



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Just because Haskins has an R in front of his name doesn't make it right. He is prolly a liberal republican,which there are many, Sen Graham, Sen McCain, etc.

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Morning Bell: Obama Denies Gutting Welfare Reform

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You're friggen hopeless Blunder Boy

You refuse to accept facts, if they don't fit your myopic world.

I'm just amazed that you are even able to hold down a job.

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