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Re: Inflation

research how much oil prices went up while bush was in office.

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research how much oil prices went up while bush was in office.
The Effect of Obama's Energy Policies on Gas Prices

This is apples to apples. Now you are trying to compare 8 years vs 3. How many things did Bush endure compared to Obama? I am not standing up for bush, just pointing out the facts. Obama had no Katrina, yet... Obama had no 911 yet...
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Now Binder........he has quite a list of accomplishments.....
An impressive list of accomplishments!

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he is a foreigner.

First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.

First President to violate the War Powers Act.

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law and turn over control of major companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily usurp congress, declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.

First President to join with a foreign country and file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Qur’an and tell us the Islamic call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First President able to break all these laws, be openly corrupt and get by with treason, because he is protected by leftist media and, funded by the likes of Soros et al., and supported by spoon-fed drones.

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Hey whitjo, does your disclaimer apply to your above comments?!!
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post #6 of 35 (permalink) Old 01-25-2012, 03:43 AM
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Now Binder........he has quite a list of accomplishments.....
An impressive list of accomplishments!

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he is a foreigner.

First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.

First President to violate the War Powers Act.

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law and turn over control of major companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily usurp congress, declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.

First President to join with a foreign country and file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Qur’an and tell us the Islamic call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First President able to break all these laws, be openly corrupt and get by with treason, because he is protected by leftist media and, funded by the likes of Soros et al., and supported by spoon-fed drones.
You forgot the obvious:

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Hey whitjo, does your disclaimer apply to your above comments?!!
By all means!......disclaimer ALWAYS applies to ANY post of mine......
You see, unlike many others, I don't take any of this stuff seriously.....I mean come on, it's a dam web forum.....who cares if it's right or wrong.....it's just entertainment to me......

On BTW.....last night's State of the Union........

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The Effect of Obama's Energy Policies on Gas Prices

This is apples to apples. Now you are trying to compare 8 years vs 3. How many things did Bush endure compared to Obama? I am not standing up for bush, just pointing out the facts. Obama had no Katrina, yet... Obama had no 911 yet...
Wow, you actually believe this bull sh!t????????

That is the worst article I've ever seen. For example:

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During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.
An "apples to apples" comparison, eh? Ok, where is the percentage spike in price during Bush's terms? It only shows the first 26 months, and then at the very end of his 2nd term when the recession was in full swing. So what happened to the MAJORITY of Bush's tenure as POTUS? The article is COMPLETELY MISSING THAT!

Then of course the article is blaming supply as the price driver. We all know that it's NOT supply. That is not the issue. Global demand is down compared to the time when prices spiked to record highs in 2008. Even our own domestic refinery capacity is not maxed out, and we currently have 11 refineries sitting idle because there is not enough demand to support bringing them online. Furthermore, during 2008 when the prices reached historic highs, global demand had already been falling. Think about it.... demand falling, supply increasing... basic economics dictates prices should fall. They didn't. Instead the prices continued to increase until there was such a huge supply that there was fewer and fewer end buyers in the market. Now all these speculators had no one to sell the oil to, and the market crashed.

The real problem of course is yet again (and I've mentioned this over and over and over and over again on this forum)..... speculation. Commodities were deregulated back in 2000, and the uncontrolled flood of speculation in the commodities market is directly to blame and is the cause for the majority of the price spikes we have seen since then, including the prices we currently see.

Seriously, dude. This is why you should avoid wingnut blogs. It's full of misinformation. And here you are trying to spread this misinformation to others. Try taking some responsibility and actually check the facts, rather than relying on pure emotion, before posting.

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Actually Curtis the article isnt missing it. Its just not mentioning it because it cant be tied to any of Bush's economic policies. Unless you're going to try to claim Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and 9/11

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Wow, you actually believe this bull sh!t????????

That is the worst article I've ever seen. For example:


An "apples to apples" comparison, eh? Ok, where is the percentage spike in price during Bush's terms? It only shows the first 26 months, and then at the very end of his 2nd term when the recession was in full swing. So what happened to the MAJORITY of Bush's tenure as POTUS? The article is COMPLETELY MISSING THAT!

Then of course the article is blaming supply as the price driver. We all know that it's NOT supply. That is not the issue. Global demand is down compared to the time when prices spiked to record highs in 2008. Even our own domestic refinery capacity is not maxed out, and we currently have 11 refineries sitting idle because there is not enough demand to support bringing them online. Furthermore, during 2008 when the prices reached historic highs, global demand had already been falling. Think about it.... demand falling, supply increasing... basic economics dictates prices should fall. They didn't. Instead the prices continued to increase until there was such a huge supply that there was fewer and fewer end buyers in the market. Now all these speculators had no one to sell the oil to, and the market crashed.

The real problem of course is yet again (and I've mentioned this over and over and over and over again on this forum)..... speculation. Commodities were deregulated back in 2000, and the uncontrolled flood of speculation in the commodities market is directly to blame and is the cause for the majority of the price spikes we have seen since then, including the prices we currently see.

Seriously, dude. This is why you should avoid wingnut blogs. It's full of misinformation. And here you are trying to spread this misinformation to others. Try taking some responsibility and actually check the facts, rather than relying on pure emotion, before posting.
Pocket, that graph is provided from the DOE!!!!!! Booom!!! They can only compare apples to apples here. Now you are trying to compare apples to bananas! oooops is that a racial code---- bananas!

You don't think these food items rose? Can I tell you why many of these rose? Commoditie grain prices! that is why. When corn goes from $2.50 to $6.50, you bet your azz prices will rise. Everything follows corn. Corn and Oil are essentially tied at the hip nowadays. In 2008 corn prices rose a historic record, then dropped to typical averages at the time.

Corn Historical Prices Charts - Historical Commodity Futures Charts'

You can look at it for yourself. In 2010 corn prices rose From late July and basically has stayed there. When you have prices 70% or greater than normal. Everything will follow suit. Equipment prices are up, input prices are up, seed is up. Everything related to agriculture is up and you think everything else will stay the same? Man you need to rethink some of your arguments. Supply and Demand did play in this, and it started in 2008. The wild swings that is.

And oooh by the Way pocket, this report is posted in the Drudge report. So I am not searching this chit out. it is right there for anyone to read.
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