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"hero" pharmacist guilty of murder

Once hailed as hero, pharmacist guilty of murder - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

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My take, it was self defense after he shot the kid in the head the first time (completly justified here)....it became murder after he chased the other one out of the store, came back, and shot him 5 more times in the back.


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Re: "hero" pharmacist guilty of murder

should have saved the other 5 shots and he would have been fine.

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I'm here in Okc, and I think he is innocent, when that punk azz kid stepped foot in that RX right at closing, threatened the staff, he deserved EVERYTHING he got, all 6 of them!

Now, he did lie about a few things and that is what hung him I think. I'm sure he was scared for his life, second guessing his actions, and started to panic.

Anyone who kills a person who is committing a crime is a hero in my book. I drove down and signed the petition. Ersland did not wake up that morning, or go to work, thinking I'm gonna kill someone today, he reacted or over reacted to the threat, and I'm sure the workers of that pharmacy thank him for it. They had been robbed and I believe beaten before in a robbery, and he swore it wouldn't ever happen again.

Guilty of murder NO, guilty of over reacting maybe, but life in prison, no effin way.

Honestly I think he had what is called an amydala hijack:

A hijack occurs when your body reacts without thinking when faced with a potential threat. The problems occur when the amygdala (back portion of brain) continues to fire and we, in turn, continue to react defensively without stopping to think about whether or not our reactions are the best ones. A common example of this is when we are in a heated argument. We are feeling threatened and our amygdala is trying to defend us. In our precieved defense, we say and do things that are ultimately harmful. It causes short term memory loss etc.

Speedy's mom is now suing ersland (who is bankrupt over this and has lost everything he worked for), so speedy couldn't rob him, so momma is going to now. I looked her up on the oklahoma supreme court network and she has TONS of suits against her for loans, failing to pay her bills etc.

I think she should be held responsible for the actions of her underage son, give her some time also.


My point is, the kid walked in to rob and steal from him, and Erslands ONLY problem was he wasn't a good enough shot to take him out with the 1st shot.

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that is total B.S. its hard to say what would happen in a situation like that, until one has actually been in that situation. I hope that I never am, but I do know for a fact there will only be ONE story being told!!!! Be it mine or the criminals.

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I can't imagine finding him guilty of murder especially in the 1st degree. I would think those 37 seconds would be wholy encompassed by "in the heat of the moment".

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should have saved the other 5 shots and he would have been fine.
My thoughts exactly. If he had controlled his temper it wouldn't have been a problem.
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i dont know if id call it controlling temper, so much as your body just being in self defense mode.. I mean everyone has done #### they regret being mad, could you imagine the things that would be going through youre mind if someone was after YOURE life??

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WOW, controlling his temper, its a little more than that. He was in survival mode I'm sure, and if that kid was twitching laying on the floor, i'm sure he felt something bad was going to happen, and squeezed off another 5 shots.

That PUNK, ruined Erslands life by putting him in that position. Had that kid been in school where he should have been, to at least be a half way contributing member of society, this would have never happened. He wanted to live the thug life, and he did, and I laugh my azz off at him!

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Did the robber go for a gun before he started shooting again?

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no, he was out, but from my understanding he was twitching, giving ersland the idea he might get up.

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