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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-05-2010, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Since it is summer time and we do not yet have a thread up on this subject I thought I would start one. The main benefit of doing this mod is that you get colder air out of the AC as you are not trying to cool down air that has been heated up by the heater core. You are simply shutting off the flow or coolant to the heater core using a valve controlled by a vacuum source. I will also put this in the Library to save once we get a good thread completed on it.

There are a few variations of this that give you some options that we can lay out in this thread. A basic set of directions is:

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I have instructions that I came across some time ago. I do not know where I got them but here they are:
A/C heater core shutoff mod

This mod will stop the flow of hot water through the heater core when the AC controls are in the MAX setting and the OFF position providing cooler temps and preventing the hot pocket of air down by your feet. I went to NAPA and asked for the 'hot water shut off valve' from a 1990 Ford Ranger with a 4.0 V-6, I also got 4 - 5/8 hose clamps, a couple feet of 1/8" vacuum line and a 1/8" plastic "T" for the vacuum line. To begin the install loosen the cap on the radiator overfill to remove pressure from the system (do this while the engine is cool). On the passenger side of the engine compartment there are two 5/8" hoses that come from the firewall and continue to the engine, these are the heater hoses. Cut the hose closest to the drivers side (It doesn't really matter where, I did mine about 6 inches after the firewall). Then holding the 'shut off valve' with the vacuum controller towards the passenger side install the portion of the heater hose coming from the cab to the top left nipple on the 'shut off valve'. Tighten the clamp. Install the portion of the heater hose coming from the engine to the top right nipple and tighten the clamp. Next cut the heater hose closest to the pass side in the same location as the previous. Install the portion coming from the cab on the lower left nipple, tighten the clamp. Now install the portion going to the engine on the lower right and tighten the clamp. Measure out how much of the 1/8" vacuum line you need to reach from the bottom of the vacuum canister on the shut off valve to the white vacuum line on the pass side that goes to the vacuum operated door underneath the pass side cowl. Cut that white vacuum line and splice in the 1/8" plastic "T". Then run the 1/8" vacuum line you measured out from that plastic "T" to the nipple on the bottom of the vacuum canister on the shut off valve. It sounds more complicated than it is. Once you do it the job will seem real simple.
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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

I did mine a little differently because I wanted to shut off the flow of coolant to the heater core in Max AC, AC and Vent. To accomplish that I tapped into the blue line under the glovebox inside the cab for the vacuum source. I have found that lets the vent position be much more useful the air temp from vent is not getting heated by the heater core. The only downside is that I have to unplug the vac line in the winter so that I can get heat in the vent position. Floor and defrost do work normally with the vac line connected.
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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Doesn't Dieselsite have a kit to do this also?
MAX AC ASSIST: AC Control Valve for 1994-2003 7.3L

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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Yes Bob does have a kit which is here:
MAX AC ASSIST: AC Control Valve for 1994-2003 7.3L



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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

if you just block the hose arnt you blocking the return flow to the head?

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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Ive read of doing this since I got by truck a few years ago but my a/c is so cold now (38 degrees with it 90 outside) I cant see a reason to do it personally on my truck. Heck if anything I bet my a/c is cooling the engine some

Does seem like ford had a reason to keep it flowing though and the return flow you mentioned could be it. I dont remember how the hoses route thru it right off the bat.

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Ive read of doing this since I got by truck a few years ago but my a/c is so cold now (38 degrees with it 90 outside) I cant see a reason to do it personally on my truck. Heck if anything I bet my a/c is cooling the engine some

Does seem like ford had a reason to keep it flowing though and the return flow you mentioned could be it. I dont remember how the hoses route thru it right off the bat.
On my truck I would do the mod for the sake of how much better it makes using the vent setting if nothing else. It makes vent useful on a 60-70 deg day instead of a heat function.
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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Tom, you've done this mod? When does it make the most difference?? DID it make a big difference?

On Edit:Guess that answered my question!

How much cooler did it make everything?


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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

Another reason to block off the heater core, besides allowing the A/C to cool unheated air, is so that you can use the 'vent' position in the fall and spring and get cool outside air so that you don't have to run the A/C. I used to take a C clamp and squeeze shut the line to the heater core, which worked fine, but if it was hot in the daytime and cool at night I was under the hood more times than I cared for.

In a galaxy far away and a website from another time a guy going by hutchinaugusta came up with a fully automatic method of shutting off the flow to the heater core...read the thread here (scroll down to ExcursionPSD - post number 6) and then see Hutch's pictures here. Hutch had a very good description of how he did it, but I was unable to find it......maybe someone else can do a better search over there...

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Re: Heater Hose Mod aka AC Mod

I would guess it takes 5-10 degrees off the AC setting and maybe 20 on vent. It is a easy to do mod that works. I used to hate the vent setting unless it was cold but now you can use it at times on those inbetween days when before it meant all the noise of windows down or running the AC. I hope some other will post up results as well.

Tim, it's sad that all the good information from back in the day at that site is basically lost as it cannot be found. FYI I am surely not taking credit for this mod just sharing some info from the old days for the newbies. I might have been the one to figure out the blue line is about it.

I came across this from 5 years ago. A/C Mod time - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com Lots of good discussion.
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