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R.I.P. 6.4 STROKER 7/31/09

That's right. Navistar will quit making the 6.4 stroker for as of July 31, 2009, and will sell the engines throughout the end of the year in the super duty lineup.

According to page 14 of the June '09 diesel world I got in the mail yesterday Ford and Navistar reached an agreement to terminate their current engine supply agreement effective Dec. 31, 2009 with engine production stopping July 31 this year, closing the indianapolis engine plant.

Does this mean we'll see the scorpion engine available in Jan. 2010? I hope so. Time will tell unless one of you know more than me (not that it takes much for that.

Not only does this excite me, but according to the following page, GM is planning on offering their mini duramax in the 1/2 ton models for the 2010 model year. Hopefully this means the 4.4 turbodiesel Ford has ready will also be introduced at the same time.

Maybe the site will have to be renamed powerstrokeandscorpionnation.com. hmmmm. might have to work on than one.
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Maybe finally able to get a cummins in a ford? I guess that would make it to easy for ford to finally put the right engine in the best chassis

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The 6.4 is shorter lived than the 6.0 but I am anxious to see the new diesel they will be using

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now aint that a b!tch!!! first cali smogs diesels, now this...


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Maybe finally able to get a cummins in a ford? I guess that would make it to easy for ford to finally put the right engine in the best chassis


The replacement for the 6.4 will be the scorpion, built in house, common rail injected V8. 6.7L I believe. I'll have to check to be sure.
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That's right. Navistar will quit making the 6.4 stroker for as of July 31, 2009, and will sell the engines throughout the end of the year in the super duty lineup.

According to page 14 of the June '09 diesel world I got in the mail yesterday Ford and Navistar reached an agreement to terminate their current engine supply agreement effective Dec. 31, 2009 with engine production stopping July 31 this year, closing the indianapolis engine plant.

Does this mean we'll see the scorpion engine available in Jan. 2010? I hope so. Time will tell unless one of you know more than me (not that it takes much for that.

Not only does this excite me, but according to the following page, GM is planning on offering their mini duramax in the 1/2 ton models for the 2010 model year. Hopefully this means the 4.4 turbodiesel Ford has ready will also be introduced at the same time.

Maybe the site will have to be renamed powerstrokeandscorpionnation.com. hmmmm. might have to work on than one.
thats yesterday's news!!! good thing is, navistar will continue making that motor for a long time to come. sp parts, etc..will always be easy to come by.

p.s. plan on another 4 years before the "scorpion" does anything of value...thats a long wait. but i did hear it should be strong out the box..before the epa has their way with it.

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Here's a link to some info. I don't know if I believe everything here but 6.7L, +3 mpg over 6.4, 390+ hp, and 720+ tq with compound turbos sounds good to me. It also said something about aluminum, backwards flow heads so the exhaust exits into the valley, shortening the exhaust manifold to turbo distance dramatically. pull off all that emissions crap, and I'd LOVE to see what this baby will do!!
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thats yesterday's news!!! good thing is, navistar will continue making that motor for a long time to come. sp parts, etc..will always be easy to come by.

p.s. plan on another 4 years before the "scorpion" does anything of value...thats a long wait. but i did hear it should be strong out the box..before the epa has their way with it.
so when did you find out navistar will end production engines for Ford as of 7/31/09? That's significant enough news that if it were out sooner, somebody should have mentioned it here. It hasn't been set in stone that long, has it? Having said that, I'd love a 6.4. it's a great engine with a lot more legitimate potential than the 6.0 or 7.3. Not dogging the 6.4 here, just excited to see what the in-house engine will do.
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GM just issued a statement less than 2 weeks ago that the light duty Dmax had been shelved. I read the official GM statement not some magazine BS that's months behind the times. GM Official Statement

Ford followed right behind them announcing that their light duty diesel was also on hold due to "no sufficient market demand". This one really pisses me off. Ford has done this crap for years. Dodge is right about one thing, "lead, follow or get out of the way". Ford likes to follow. They have the chance to be the first to market with something and they choose to sit on it until the competition forces them to bring it to market. Unbelievable!
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My dad is a tool maker for plastic injected parts, and his company actually had contracts to be making tools for the Ford light duty diesel, and then Ford pulled it all and said it was all on hold.

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