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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 10:59 PM Thread Starter
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6.7 allison 6 speed

Hey all im gonna be doing a 6.7 6speed ally swap..its the.. first true build ive ever done ill be posting pics and looking for helpful info along the way..
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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

in what?
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Haha my bad a 2006 cclb lariat f250
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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

So plans will be altered for a short while ill be running the 5r110..anyone experienced with the wiring on a commonrail swap using the ford pcm to control tranny
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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

You will need a stand alone trans controller, the best one to use is a PCS trans controller. Also tuning that 5r is going to be a nightmare, you might want to consider following through with your allison, or getting a 4r. Do some searching on the forums about tuning a 5r with a stand alone controller after a cummins swap and you'll get a better idea of where I'm coming from.

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Ive heard of alot of guys using the ford PCM to control the trans and its leaps and bounds ahead of trying to use the PCS controller..any idea on that??
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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

I have never heard of anyone using the ford PCM to control a 5r. I don't see how its possible since it isn't a stand alone controller like for example the allison transmissions. The PCM would need engine inputs that are no longer there.

It would be a first for me if I seen someone using the factory PCM to control the trans.

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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

thers quite a few people actually.. you dont need a stand alone to run an allison either.. theres a few guys running 6 speed allys behind a few different motor combos.. no one even makes a 6 speed standalone yet.. thats what i will be doing when i get the allison fully built..:)
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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

Allison transmissions use their own computer as far as I know. Therefor its a stand alone controller. For example the transmission tuning is not part of the ECM in a duramax, it is separate.
Also like I said, I have never seen anyone controlling a 5r with the factory PCM after an engine swap. That sounds ridiculous, and unpractical to me anyways. A PCS stand alone trans controler is way ahead of any ford transmission tuning capabilities anyway, a LONG way ahead. I have one running a 4r100 and it is an excellent piece of engineering. However it is still difficult to tune the 5r using a PCS because of the way the 5r is designed and the way it shifts gears.

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Re: 6.7 allison 6 speed

i understand what you are saying but at the same time there are people NOT using the PCS after a motor swap to control the 5R.. also there are people not using the allison standalone say from destroked to control the 6 speed allsions, pretty much cuz there is not a "standalone" available for the allison 6 speed yet.. there is only a standalone for the 5 speeds and you can convert it to a 6 speed with their aftermarket valve body.. but HAVING to use a PCS to control the 5r, is a false statement.. you can actually use the factory ford controller to control the 5R

so with that said is there anyone out there with the knoledge to NOT use to PCS controller on the 5R and still get the 5R to control...
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