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…as a parameter of performance is that it is not transparent. Drag racers get satisfaction with a matter of seconds. Other racers have easily measured speed parameters. Even tractor pullers get a straightforward and commonly available means of testing themselves.

Back in the 50s and 60s there was the “Mobil Economy Run” strictly run for manufacturers. Those old cars were unbelievable gas hogs (the best got about 21 MPG – most ran in the 12-14 MPG range).

What are needed are economy contests. You could do them over public roads or have them at speedways. There are a lot more speedways today than there were in the days of the Mobil Economy Run. I would not think scheduling would be much of a problem – the Indianapolis Motor Speedway gets used two or three times a year, and Daytona twice. Maybe a way to start is local races on lesser venues.

Racing organizations are quite adept at measuring speed distance and the amount of fuel used. Because they can measure speed, distance, and fuel consumption very accurately, the contests need not be LeMans marathons. Fifty miles per contestant would be the greatest of plenty.

Imagine this: Let’s say 100 contestants show up at Talladega to compete in maybe ten classes. The contestants each follow individual pace cars. The pace cars have radar-operated lights to keep the contestants from drafting them too closely and if the contestant drops back beyond a tolerance range he is penalized for driving too slowly. The pace cars would maintain spacing from each other, so you could have as many as ten pace car/contestant combinations on a big track like Talladega at a time. Have them run 50 miles at 70 MPH and you could probably have the whole thing resolved in a day. TV will not cover it – it would be like watching a paint drying contest, but the manufacturers could make serious commercial hay from MPG dominance.

The “Super Bowl” of this would be a coast-to-coast run on civilian highways. A contestant has X amount of time to cover each leg and can only be fueled up at sanctioned stations. Any official would be in each vehicle to assure that no monkey business takes place.

Maybe not mass entertainment – not much chance of crashes at highway speeds on a speedway – but it would advance the technology and awareness of fuel economy.

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Re: The Problem with MPG...

I can see it now:

Whitmar/Audi/VW teams wins 23rd annual Ford Econoball race.
In the 2033 Econoball race Sponsored by Ford, Dave Whitmar drove his VW powered Audi to his 23rd victory with an amazing fuel usage of 12.749 gallons of regulation diesel in the race covering 650 miles. The race wasn't without setback though, the Mercedes/Volvo team suffered an amazing disaster as they developed a fuel leak early in the race. The fuel leaked directly into the tailpipe creating a flame thrower reminiscent of the early 2008 Ford diesel trucks.
The Chevy/Banks team driven by Gale banks claimed that they won the race on the technicality that they are the only 'purely American' team to win the race held each year in the United States. They claimed an amazing 8.476 gallons used in spite of the fact that they emptied five 10 gallons containers into their 11.3 gallon tank.
The Dodge/Freightliner team car driven by rookie driver Andrew took 3rd place after having a 6.5 hour pitstop to change out turbocharger which had ingested a shop rag.

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I can see it now:

Whitmar/Audi/VW teams wins 23rd annual Ford Econoball race.
In the 2033 Econoball race Sponsored by Ford, Dave Whitmar drove his VW powered Audi to his 23rd victory with an amazing fuel usage of 12.749 gallons of regulation diesel in the race covering 650 miles. The race wasn't without setback though, the Mercedes/Volvo team suffered an amazing disaster as they developed a fuel leak early in the race. The fuel leaked directly into the tailpipe creating a flame thrower reminiscent of the early 2008 Ford diesel trucks.
The Chevy/Banks team driven by Gale banks claimed that they won the race on the technicality that they are the only 'purely American' team to win the race held each year in the United States. They claimed an amazing 8.476 gallons used in spite of the fact that they emptied five 10 gallons containers into their 11.3 gallon tank.
The Dodge/Freightliner team car driven by rookie driver Andrew took 3rd place after having a 6.5 hour pitstop to change out turbocharger which had ingested a shop rag.
lmao, that is great!!!

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Daytona is used more then twice, isnt it? with nascar, nascar busch, nascar trucks, superbikes, and while they use the infield, the daytona supercross. when mythbusters did a MPG test on a speedway, they couldnt use a full tank because the tires would wear out before the tank was empty, due to the steep banking in the corners, so you would have to have pitstops.
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I wouldn't see the speeds exceeding 70 MPH in an economy run - you'd never get the tires warm by racing standards, even on a high bank. Street tires wear a lot better than racing tires as they don't need the ultimate in adhesion.

I think you could get in 50 miles with no problem.

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If NAscar can take those corners at 180 mph... I bet regular cars could take it at 70 mph on bald tires....

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