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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-15-2013, 12:48 AM Thread Starter
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PHP Phoenix economy gains?

My truck is a 2000 F250, 2 wheel drive, 6 speed manual, running 265/75's for rubber and is bone stock except for the gauges.

I am looking at the PHP chip and would like to hear what experiences people have had with the economy settings on that chip.

I don't have a heavy foot and looking towards this chip for both the economy and tow setting.

What are the milage gains that people have had?
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-15-2013, 01:25 AM
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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

ive found you get better mileage with a high hp tune and staying out of the pedal than with an economy tune.

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My guess would be the economy tunes focus on the shifting points and the OD engaging point, correct?

If that is true, it would be useless for my truck due to being the 6 speed manual.
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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

I do believe you're correct. I noticed it shifts into OD a lot faster than all the other tunes. Stick with the power tunes you'll be better off. I also saw lower boost number with the econo tune.

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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

I just want to get the right tunes the first time and since the manual changes everything, don't want to pay for useless tunes.
I'm thinking the HP tunes would be more beneficial.
Wondering if the tow tunes do the same thing?
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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

I think most of the changes between dd and performance and towing tunes is in the shifting pattern for automatic transmissions. If you had an 80perf on an automatic truck and an 80 tow on a manual truck I think they would be the same amount of extra power over stock. A tow tune in an automatic makes in engage OD much later than normal to save from burning it up.

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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

I notice a big difference in low end fueling between 80 performance and 80 tow, with tow being slightly slower spool.

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I notice a big difference in low end fueling between 80 performance and 80 tow, with tow being slightly slower spool.
So, it would be worth while to get both tow and performance, even with a 6 speed. It's not all just auto trans and shifting points.

I can assume the faster spool is in performance mode?
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Re: PHP Phoenix economy gains?

yes ^^ tow tune is set up to keep manageable EGT's, with the power coming on later it is easier on the drive train as well.
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post #10 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-16-2013, 01:36 AM Thread Starter
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considering the driving I do, I will probably do all the tow tunes, the quiet tune and a performance tune. Who doesn't want to play every once in a while! :P

Thanks for all the input guys!
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