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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-04-2010, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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Shifting without clutch?

Is it rough on the a zf-6 to upshift without the clutch like in bigger trucks? I have done it some and goes into gear great and doesn't grind. Just don't wanna mess anything up if its rougher on synchronizers or not.

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

If it doesn't grind, and you aren't having to jam it in there i think it would be fine.. i can't really do it in my pickup (zf5) without grinding gears.. but with dads 2000 model sd i have no problems... its got over 300k on it and its still going so really dont think it would hurt much.

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

I do it from time to time... As long as you have your rpms where they need to be when you do it you will be fine. You can even down shift like that if you know what you are doing.

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

My five spd is pretty moodie, most of the time you can but you have to be within 200 rpms of its "sweet spot" or you have to clutch. So ill give it a little push into gear and if it doesnt go ill just push n the clutch. If you're peddle to the floor i wouldn even think about not using the clutch.

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

don't grind'm to find'm and u will have no problems doing it, its all in the feel of the shifter

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

Alright, thanks guys. I haven't quite got the downshifting right yet. Prolly won't worry about it. Just curious on the upshifting.

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Alright, thanks guys. I haven't quite got the downshifting right yet. Prolly won't worry about it. Just curious on the upshifting.
downshifting is just as easy as upshifting just do it in reverse order in everyway, when u wana go down a gear let u rpm's drop off to about 1300 and touch the accelerator ever so lightly and slip it outa gear then apply slight steady pressure to the accelerator to make the rpms move up slowly, put just a touch of pressure on the shifter and it will slide into gear when the rpm's are right, if i can teach a 14 year old kid that couldn't drive a manual when we got in the pickup to do this in a half hour im sure u can figure it out, good luck

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Learning it aint a big deal. I just don't think about it when downshifting not to push the clutch in. hahhaha

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

I drove a truck for 2yrs that had a bad slave cylinder by up and down shifting w/o the clutch... Now starting from a dead stop... That's exciting.

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Re: Shifting without clutch?

I do it on occasion in mine
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