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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-28-2009, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
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Trans troubleshooting

I threw the code for the tq converter slipping the other night, on my first drive with the truck and it went into hard shifting-increased line pressure mode.
I's like to get out of this as cheap as possible, BTS is NOT an option, and i don't think woods is either, loosing the job in jan, so i'd like to save as much money as possible right now.

Here is my plan so far-
- Dump the fluid, if its dark brown, or if there is an excessive amount of metal in the pan, i know its toast, and i have to do a rebuild.
No metal in pan/nice fluid I'll do the following-
- Clean valve body and possibly install a shift kit, any recommendations?
- Replace torque converter and front pump, I see them on ebay for 350 for a TC, and about 150 for a rebuilt pump, this seems to be the cheapest option right now.

I'd like to get at least one season of plowing out of this truck, not planning to do any power upgrades right now, just plan on using it as a money-maker.

Is there a tool list of what i would NEED to rebuild the trans, i know alot of the trans manual have some extra do-dads for troubleshooting and other stuff that can be accomplished with reg tools. Rebuilding a trans is within my mechanical ability, I just need to figure out what tools i need to do them.

Any input is appreciated.

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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 02:19 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Trans troubleshooting

Moot point, trans fluid is a little bit darker than the red on this website, not the nice brite red i was hoping for.
The magnet was quite fuzzy, between 1/8 and 1/4 thick of very fine particles.
No real big chunks in the pan, just a few small unidentifiable material, about the size or cigarette tobacco.
Gotta start rustling up the cash for a rebuild.
No pending codes sitting there idling, cleared the stored codes, and went for a short test drive, nothing came up. yet.
I have to replace the rear driveshaft u-joints, the rear is definitely bad, front i'll do for ####s an giggles.
Once i get the gearbox replaced i'll have a better handle on what else is needed.

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Re: Trans troubleshooting

Is it obvious that you are plowing? I am not sure as to whether Ford will stand behind your trans if it breaks and they know you plow. I suppose if you can disconnect it so it doesn't show and you can be a total moron and just say "I don't know what happened." with the most stupid look you can muster you might just stand a chance getting it fixed should something happen.

No, this didn't happen to me but someone I know and GM fixed it.

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No, the truck has never been plowed with. I still haven't put the mount on it.
I'm debating putting myself into a bit of debt, and getting it done right, the first time.

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No, the truck has never been plowed with. I still haven't put the mount on it.
I'm debating putting myself into a bit of debt, and getting it done right, the first time.
IMO, it has been cheaper to do it right the first time than to redo it.

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Re: Trans troubleshooting

A trans rebuild kit from SunCoast is around $400. It has beefier friction plates and stronger steels for the clutch plates. That's assuming you're doing it yourself though.

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A trans rebuild kit from SunCoast is around $400. It has beefier friction plates and stronger steels for the clutch plates. That's assuming you're doing it yourself though.
Don't forget to add the TC. To the OP. If you do buy that kit, make sure that the builder is ok with it unless you DIY. In fact, buy it thru the builder otherwise, if a problem occurs, well.......

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Re: Trans troubleshooting

Anybody know what special tools I need to do a rebuild?

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Anybody know what special tools I need to do a rebuild?
I would take a class at a local tech college and use their equipment and learn what to do. Otherwise, why buy any special equipment if you are using it once in several years?

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Re: Trans troubleshooting

good call.

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