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building my own E40D

i recently bought another obs 1996 f350 7.3 4X4 and had the trans drop in 3 days, had a transgo tugger kit in. as far as i know nothing was upgraded inside the trans.

im looking to build this one my self, my sig truck has a bts and its amazing but i dont feel the need for another $5k trans in a mostly stock truck

this truck will be a more of a work/ plow truck on my farm.
it will be towing equipment and wagons around, prolly pulling 20k lbs at the most, and it will also prolly see some kinda deep mud here and there.

it will be getting baby swamps injectors in the near future, along with ww2 and 1.0 housing.

i was thinking about racerx rebuild kit, valve body and tc, might get the pi tc instead.

what internals should i upgrade? and who should i source them threw?

what other kits does everyone recommend or have tried?

id like to build this one right the first time but not go overboard with unnessecary parts

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Mods: ts6 w/ TW tunes, BTS trans, idm mod, 3"dp 5" straight pipe, e-fuel. 17* t500, 238/100 rosewood hybrids, d66 turbo with ww2. Built from the crank up - sold

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-10-2015, 03:00 AM
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Re: building my own E40D

So your mostly stock truck is gonna get injectors, turbo, pull 20k lbs, and go wheeling. unless you've done transmission work before I'm not sure you wanna tackle that. Building a trans to withstand what your planning is more then just what kit fits the best. End play, clutch tolerances, knowing where to look for planet wear. Things like that are where experience makes a trans last. I wouldn't spend 5k on a bts either. But consider pairing up with a local trans specialist
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Re: building my own E40D

its getting small injectors 150 cc stock nozzle, and the turbo is still stock based, just a compressor wheel and different exhaust housing , wheeling no... i farm for a living in the springs fields are muddy. and in the fall harvest can also be muddy. its gonna be a work truck.

pulling 20k on a wagon chassis is once in a great while only when i load my round bale wagon up to the max for a far delivery.

i know what to look for inside the trans, ive rebuilt several to stock specs just havent added the billet internals or upgraded internals before.

the kit i mentioned was my starting point, im looking for advice on what internals to upgrade while im inside the trans and where the best place to get them is.

local trans guy here is a joke, he " built" my sig trucks trans 5 times within 7000 miles before i gave up with him and bought the bts.
not many good trans guys in my area, the one who did damn good work passed away a few years ago. no ones came around to fill his shoes yet.

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Mods: ts6 w/ TW tunes, BTS trans, idm mod, 3"dp 5" straight pipe, e-fuel. 17* t500, 238/100 rosewood hybrids, d66 turbo with ww2. Built from the crank up - sold

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Re: building my own E40D

the injectors and turbo work are for later on, most likely during winter ill do that.

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Mods: ts6 w/ TW tunes, BTS trans, idm mod, 3"dp 5" straight pipe, e-fuel. 17* t500, 238/100 rosewood hybrids, d66 turbo with ww2. Built from the crank up - sold

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The experience is the big part. I've had several guys bring me a transmission in a box because they didn't know how to put it back together. In early E4OD I like to do several upgrades. If you still have aluminum planets chuck em and get steel. Upgrade to a bearing style center support. Alto makes red eagle clutch kits for every clutch pack. I use od, int, and direct in every trans that does any amount of work. Be very critical on the pump. If it's worn out get a new one. Shift kit is personal preference. I use sonnax sure cure a lot. Also superior shift kit. I buy all these components from transtar or wit. I typically buy a converter that's billit front but only a single clutch for light/medium duty and billit multi clutch for the guys that tow real heavy or race.
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Re: building my own E40D

will 4r100 planets work in the e40d? i was thinking about doing the sure cure kit, waiting for racerx to get back with me on there valve body.

the racerx kit is all the alto clutches and all the seals.

pump will be getting replaced if its worn, what are your toughts on teflon gears for the pump came across them today while looking for parts.

was looking at suncoasts center support.

i cant get to far ahead of my self till i get the trans out and apart to see whats already inside of it.

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Mods: ts6 w/ TW tunes, BTS trans, idm mod, 3"dp 5" straight pipe, e-fuel. 17* t500, 238/100 rosewood hybrids, d66 turbo with ww2. Built from the crank up - sold

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Yes 4r planets will work. If you have a BTS trans in one of your trucks why not use a BTS valve body in the one you're building, since it's proven? I bought a RacerX valve body years back and it made my shifts more slow/lazy than they were before. Not bashing, just my experience. Could've been because my clutches were toast but out of frustration I did a couple DIY mods to their valve body and my trans had never shifted better, fast crisp shifts.

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i could use a bts valve body, i feel like trying other parts that way i know what works and what doesnt work for different builds

what diy mods did you do to that valve body?

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Mods: ts6 w/ TW tunes, BTS trans, idm mod, 3"dp 5" straight pipe, e-fuel. 17* t500, 238/100 rosewood hybrids, d66 turbo with ww2. Built from the crank up - sold

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Well it's going to sound ghetto and will be long so bare with me, but drilled 5/64" holes in each shift bore, so 3 holes total. There's a write up from back in the day, as well as videos on youtube with the results. I can link the thread but it's old and for some reason doesn't show the pictures on how to do it anymore. Really it's simple though. If you're looking at the accumulator body, you have 3 shift bores and 1 bore for the modulator sleeve/valve (all 3 look the same, meaning you'll know which ones are the shift bores..). When looking at the fluid channel-ways you'll see a V-shaped notch on each shift bore. You basically drill the hole right under that notch, can only drill at an angle. I don't really recommend it even though it worked great for me and many others, but since you wanted to know there you go.. If I were you I'd just buy the Sonnax Sure Cure or complete Transgo kit, like the Tugger. I'm by no means a trans builder but your build means nothing without a nice firm, crisp shift, and there's quite a few different ways to get that, like said above

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I usually buy the steel planets as a kit. The racer-x kits looks to be a whole kit of the clutch components I usually buy individual. The sure cure is a good choice. I've used it many times. Sonnax also makes a progressive line pressure kit that's a good option as well. Never used Teflon gears before. I've done well enough with standard gears that I don't see the need. The shims that come with the sure cure to adjust shift firmness are nice. You can adjust shifts individually.
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