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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-29-2007, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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Im just thinking aloud but I want to hear your thoughts on weather this is cost effective or just plane old over kill.
I have been reading post on guy's worried about high transmission temps and their attempt to fix them. I have seen larger oil pans and upgrades to the 6.0 oil cooler. all in all they seem to do very well. but do they do as good as the could possibly do?

My idea is to add a 6.0 oil cooler to the frame close to the transmission and use it with the stock one still installed. It seems like a lot of cooling but this is where it gets more expensive. I priced a set of 12vdc valves with a 1/4 inlet/outlet, about $45 a piece. With three of them and 2 tees and a thremacouple you would be able to use the second cooler or bypass it. I thought on the return line, close to the transmision, I would install the first tee. on the two outlet sides of this would be a valve. THe one going to the transmission would be a normaly open valve in case of failure. The other valve going to the secondary cooler. this valve would be normaly close incase of failure to send fluid directly to the transmission. On the outlet side of the cooler I thought of installing a third valve just to ensure that when the secondary cooler was actuated it would keep the cooler from empting itself into the pan. also a normail closed valve. Im not sure if this is a need to keep the air out or not? but the second tee would have to go between the transmission and the first normaly closed valve for return and proper flow. all of this would be actuated by a thermacouple. this would open the valves or close the valves to the appropriate position to bypass or use the secondary cooler. as well as engage or disengage a small electric fan on the secondary cooler. I also thought of installing a bypass switch so that you could manuel add the second cooler when you want. as well as a LED some where near the transmission temp gauge to let you know that both coolers are being used.

now with all that said I wanted to do this so that in cold climates the transmission would not stay cold on the highway. and in warm climates, like hear in the middile of arizona, it would add a lot of extra cooling.
I just would like to hear some of your thoughts on this if its extreme over kill or just to much cost to for what you gain. To me this is simple compared to the jets I work on, so the building and wiring is not a problem. all together I think this would cost around 400.

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Re: thoughts on cooling

I have never had an issue with my two coolers and being too cold...

BD makes a fan controled cooler, this would be ideal for what you are talking about because where you are talking about mounting it, there is little airflow for cooling. But if it got hot, then the fan turns on and wala...

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Re: thoughts on cooling

sounds like a great idea, but couldnt you just get away with adding a 6.o cooler along with the factory cooler and put some fans on it? i was thinking about just adding fans to my stock cooler. do you think it would make a difference?

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Re: thoughts on cooling

shucks CSIPSD mut have posted at the same time as me. where did you get your kit from?

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Re: thoughts on cooling

you guys are making it too hard, I would not go stacking a bunch of coolers on it and thus creating restriction.

One 31 row 5r110 cooler stand alone and the factory 4r100 bypass will be sufficient.

No fancy pans.

If you still have temp issues something's wrong, and I dont mean anything thats over 150, it needs some heat to work properly.
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ok this being said, whats the optimum temp to run at?

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Re: thoughts on cooling

I dont have anything other then the factory cooler and a Big aftermarket one... 130-170 is about the best temps...

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Re: thoughts on cooling

THis is what I thought But I know that in sub zero climates it takes a long time to warm up. So how does the 5r110 cooler with the factory unit do at -20? Does it actuly cool to much? when I lived in alaska two coolers would be way too much, imho. but now that I have my bags packed hear in phoeniex Two sounds right. this is why I have thought of building this system. I dont believe with the valves any extra restriction would be added. espeacily since you could lock out the second cooler. I am sorry I just mentioned the pan because I know they are out their. I wouldn't realy buy one. but would build this.

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Before my stock TC took a crap... I never broke 180*. Not driving in town, or towing in the mountains or in 110*+ weather and basically driving like a dick head. That's with the mods in my sig and towing in the mountains with my cabover and rock crawler in tow.

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THis is what I thought But I know that in sub zero climates it takes a long time to warm up. So how does the 5r110 cooler with the factory unit do at -20? Does it actuly cool to much? when I lived in alaska two coolers would be way too much, imho. but now that I have my bags packed hear in phoeniex Two sounds right. this is why I have thought of building this system. I dont believe with the valves any extra restriction would be added. espeacily since you could lock out the second cooler. I am sorry I just mentioned the pan because I know they are out their. I wouldn't realy buy one. but would build this.

Your tranny has a bypass for just that reason... if its too cold it bypasses the cooler and goes right back in... Never had an issue with too cold or too hot... Dont make it hard... just add a second cooler.

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