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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-06-2008, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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CARNAGE!!! Tie rod pulled out of sleeve while driving, is this frequent?

Well, not really carnage, but it could very easily have been had it happened 12 hours ago.
It suppose it started last night. 2.5 hours each way to relatives house for a late Christmas party, I noticed that the last 2 turns I made (1- onto the street where I live, and 2- into the driveway) there was a rather loud popping noise, and I felt it in my foot through the floor. I'd had an occassional popping noise before, so I thought nothing of it.
This morning I backed out of the driveway and when I turned the wheel to drive down the street, I heard what I can only describe as a very loud, coarse, zipper. I got the truck driving straight and realized that the steering wheel was 90 degrees to the left! I knew then what it was, but I didn't know which one. It was the right side.
The tierod had pulled almost completely out of the sleeve. The last time it was touched was over a year ago, and that was a easy toe-in adjustment. I took about a half to full turn on each side to get the toe into spec.
By the time I very carefully backed up the street and into the driveway, the tierod had fallen completely out. I drove 330 miles yesterday, mostly highway 65mph - 70mph. Thank God it didn't happen there.

I've almost got the steering torn apart, just waiting on a friend to see if he has a pickle fork. It appears that the threads are pretty well stripped on the sleeve and the tierod. I'll try to get pics once it's finished. Looking at about $200 in parts to get it fixed.

Is this a common failure? I've never heard of it happening. Makes me question the safety of the other side.

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Damn that sucks !

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Do you know the history of the truck? I was wondering if that wheel has ever taken a hard shot in an accident.

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Do you know the history of the truck? I was wondering if that wheel has ever taken a hard shot in an accident.

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I don't know. I bought the truck with about 208,300 miles on it, just over 239,300 on it now. It was a farm truck before it was traded in. Right headlamp adjustment was broken when I bought it, but no other real damage to the front. Every thing else is straight. The fender is obviously the original (judging by rust), as is the core support and bumper.

Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? Or am I just the unlucky only one?

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Re: CARNAGE!!! Tie rod pulled out of sleeve while driving, is this frequent?

if the adjusting sleeve wasnt tight enough, or it loosened up(even a little) the threads can start moving and if left unchecked will result in what happened to you

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Holy crap you better be thanking God that you weren't on the highway and close to home.

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Had that happen to one of our Peterbilts twice. Lost steering completly while on I-95. Scary
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Re: CARNAGE!!! Tie rod pulled out of sleeve while driving, is this frequent?

Hmm. I asked around and no one near me had ever heard of this happening.

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I was/am very thankful it didn't pull out on the interstate. If I'd had a welder I would have welded it up and replaced the parts later.

Navistarboy, did they find out why it happened either time?

An interesting point is that the Moog part DS1419 inner tierod (right) fits all OBS F250 4x4 trucks. Doesn't matter what engine or wheel base.

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No, not sure what caused it. The truck now has 150k + on it since and not a problem. My repair shop said they never seen that happen. Luckily the other time it broke was going through a circle in a intersection.
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Hopfully you get it sorted out and better luck in the future.

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