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Difference in HID'S

What is the difference in HID setups? I notice that there are 35watt and 55watt HID kits. Also I want to have a white HID kind of like the color you see in stock mercedes HID lights...what should I get cause I know the 8000k has somewhat of a blueish tint to it.

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4300 if you want white. and 55 is brighter than 35

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8000k is for ricers...4300k is perfect. It's bright and easy on the eyes.
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4300 if you want white. and 55 is brighter than 35


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Re: Difference in HID'S

We need to get some semi controlled pics of different kits in action from our trucks sometime to show the color differences and all. I doubt we can come up with a way to really show brightness differences since everyones camera will be different and surroundings and all but a color chart like that would rock and help people decide what they want.

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Re: Difference in HID'S

See what I can add. I put this together to help new HID users see where the majority lies when it comes to picking a color of HID bulb. Purely for fun.

Some background first - "HID light sources also produce a blue-white light that is safer because it is closer to natural daylight. The color temperature of daylight is approximately 4200 K compared to 3200 K for halogens. The increased light output from a 35 watt XENON HID lamp is approximately 80% more light then a 55 watt halogen bulb.Color Temperature is a measurement in Degrees Kelvin that indicates the hue of a specific type of light source. Many people believe the misconception that color temperature is a rating of the brightness of the bulb or HID kit. This belief is completely false. The reality of the matter is that the higher the color temperature, the less useable light output you will obtain. A perfect example would be a black light. This light has a color temperature of approx 12,000k and has almost no useable light or lumens output. Higher K kits such as 7000k, 7500k, etc. have been manufactured for individuals that are more concerned about the actual color output of their lights as opposed to the actual useable light output they produce."



^ (paraphrased from tbyrnmotorsports)

------------------------------ Approximate
Light Source ----- K Temp --- Lumens (output)
Halogen bulb ----- 3200k --------- 1500-2000
Sunlight ----------- 4700k
D2S bulb ---------- 4100k --------- 3200
D2S bulb ---------- 6000k --------- 2800
--------------------- 8000k HID ---- 2500
-------------------- 10000k HID ---- 2200
-------------------- 12000k HID ---- 2100

^ (D2S bulbs above rated off of a Phillips and Phillips Ultinon bulb, respectively)

I would like to reiterate as I have said a few times before in forum, that every HID system with projectors (not reflectors) will have a color shift in appearance (visible as you approach an oncoming vehicle or as seen by illuminating your headlights on a white wall) there is that line of blue/purple (and other colors, however minimal) that is generated as the light source bends around the cutoff in your projector headlamp. Now, the whiter the light, the more definition of a blue/purple cutoff you will have. So, if you have 4300k HIDs installed, that cutoff that you and everyone will see, will have a significant amount of blue/purple and a little gold, (pink perhaps too) at the horizon... very defined and eyecatching.

As you go up the kelvin scale, the less variation in color you will see. If you are in blue territory, you will maybe see a dark blue cutoff, but nothing else. Purple HIDs get the same, all purple and no variation. Although from what I researched, the typical OEM D2S bulbs are 4100k.

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I personally think this 6000K HID is throwing too much light into the oncoming lane. Adjustment is a very important detail with these. The pattern needs to be considered.























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Wow great write up..Thanks. I think I might go with the 5000k as from those pics they look to me like they are the most white. You guys know of any good retailers or should I just look for an e-bay special?

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