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VIN Key Cutting?

I need some help getting new keys on my new to me 02. It's a lariat with keyless entry and was always opened and closed with the FOB. The keys are so worn that they won't open the door or tailgate cylinder and all the copies we've made on a dupilacator won't work either. My local ford dealership said he can't go back to an 02 to cut by the VIN because it's too old. Will that be the standard respond everywhere or is it just because they are a smaller town dealership. I don't like the idea of not having a key to open the truck and rekeying it all is really too pricy.

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sub'd, i'm in the same boat, only got one key that unlocks the drivers side door only sometimes lol! have to use the fob.


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i think you are going to find that answer anywhere you go. remember, that 02 is now 14 years old. the oldest vehicle i had any luck getting keys for from the vin was 5 years old.

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Re: VIN Key Cutting?

OK try wolf securities http://stores.ebay.com/wolfsecurityhardware

he can use a picture of your key to figure out what to cut

he got mine perfect it cant hurt to ask but maybe yours is to worn ?
otherwise he can get you a full set of new and he sells OEM cylinders

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OK try wolf securities http://stores.ebay.com/wolfsecurityhardware

he can use a picture of your key to figure out what to cut

he got mine perfect it cant hurt to ask but maybe yours is to worn ?
otherwise he can get you a full set of new and he sells OEM cylinders

Thanks for the link. I emailed him. I need to get him a picture of the key and he'll see what he thinks he can do.

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OK try wolf securities http://stores.ebay.com/wolfsecurityhardware

he can use a picture of your key to figure out what to cut

he got mine perfect it cant hurt to ask but maybe yours is to worn ?
otherwise he can get you a full set of new and he sells OEM cylinders
Did your keys not open the doors because they were worn when he made you a new key? I ask because I went back and forth with him yesterday and didn't really get anywhere. He wants to make me new lock cylinders I only want a key cut to original demensions. He told me that the key being worn is not causing my lock issues which is untrue because I had 1 key made that would open the doors but was dragging on the pins. The kid cleaned up that key with another pass then it didn't work so I know what I'm talking about with my truck. I'm not against buying cylinders but I feel like it's going backwards to key a lock to a worn key and I don't want to pull my doors apart to change them. If he could reverse cut a key from a cylinder I'll pull and send him the tailgate cylinder but I don't like the idea of taking everything apart. He also wanted to charge me $18 to duplicate the key to make new locks. I would just get a key cut and mail it to him if the needs a copy of the key as is to make a cylinder.

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when the key gets old and wears down, it will no longer work the lock because the pins are not pushed into their proper position. 2 thousands of an inch is enough wear to make the key not work.
the problem with cutting a worn key is you do not know how worn it is to compensate for the wear.

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My key was ok my ignition cylinder was worn and wouldnt turn backwards to acc. So he took my key picture
And made me a cylinder and two new keys to match saving me from replacing door keys and tailgate

The reason i figured he could use a worn key pic
To cut a new key is he knows the Ford profile
And would cut accordingly

If your lock has a lot of use i would just let him win the argument. Lol

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My key was ok my ignition cylinder was worn and wouldnt turn backwards to acc. So he took my key picture
And made me a cylinder and two new keys to match saving me from replacing door keys and tailgate

The reason i figured he could use a worn key pic
To cut a new key is he knows the Ford profile
And would cut accordingly

If your lock has a lot of use i would just let him win the argument. Lol

I hope he gives me a phone number and we can just figure it out from there. How hard was it to change the ignition lock? Like I said before if he wants to cut me a key by matching it to the tailgate cylinder I'll gladly pull it and send it to him. I'd entertain changing the ignition cylinder if I didn't have to go into my doors.

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